<p>what do u think? should college admissions be revamped? here is the thing. they already know if you are accepted or denied or waitlisted....</p>
<p>and instead of putting everyone through the agony, why not tell us.</p>
<p>do you/they realize how many kids commit elsewhere just cause they are sick of waiting. and for you that say if they really wanted it they would wait, well dont alot of you think that you are denied since you havent heard? so it is hard when all of your friends have commited and you are still undecided.</p>
<p>cause practically no one from my school gets in ea and if they do it is usually after being waitlisted. my gc thought that it would be better to show my ap grades and to do more community service for my app. and sure enough all of the kids i know go denied or deferred or waitlisted. so i would probably be waiting anyway. i just think that if schools, not just unc, started posting decisions earlier it would be good for everyone?</p>
<p>Why doesn't Carolina offer binding early decision?</p>
<p>We decided to drop our binding early decision plan because we want our applicants to approach their college searches thoughtfully. We believe the best searches are the ones in which students focus on which institution best matches their interests and talents, not on which application plan most improves their chances of being admitted. We also hope that our action will encourage you to write a thoughtful application, investigate our campus thoroughly, and make your final college choice without the pressure of an early commitment.</p>
<p>So, do you work there? Are you a student or a parent because I am interested in your opinion on something. As our family approached this decision on where to send our D, we wanted to make sure that she was around kids from everywhere and all walks of life. I have noticed that UNC wants diversity yet with so many NC residents, I have questioned the ability to meet that goal.</p>
<p>When we visited, I did not see a lot of diversity. What is your opinion on that?</p>
<p>beatduke: I know your question was for chillmandan, but I assume you realize that UNC is a NC public university; as such, the majority of the students will be from NC. That's a given. And as ldmom says, "the 18% percentage of OOS at NC state universities is mandated by the NC legislature," though that percentage will increase some beginning this fall. Nevertheless, diversity is not simply about, nor limited to, geography. I note that your daughter has chosen to attend Georgia Tech, also a fine school. I assume you are not concerned that the majority of students there will be from Georgia (~70%), or that the majority (~70%) are male. I suspect we all look for (and view) diversity in different ways. Good luck at Georgia Tech.</p>
<p>Jack, sorry that I seemed to have ticked you off. Even if you are a NC resident, you have to agree that it is a little limiting to have so few oos kids.
It is very good for your state and your children and that is great. But for oos kids, it puts an undue stress trying to get in when there is so little room. Granted, if kids are willing to deal with that stress, it is their choice.</p>
<p>As for GT, you are mistaken. If you read info in Princeton Review, you will see that to UNC's 18% oos there are 32% oos at GT. And if you want to debate this issue, which I never meant to (I was giving a valid observation of an oos parent), I acknowledge that a lot of public institutions have low oos students. But there is a lot more diversity at GT. My D would have loved to go to UNC but simply felt that GT's efforts to stay in touch, their wonderful website, and their prompt response to her app made us feel like we mattered and we not just a number. I am sure UNC does that for some kids but they didn't for us. </p>
<p>This was never meant to provoke you NC residents into outrage! But good for you that you feel so defensive about your state and school.</p>
<p>I'm an OOS parent and can tell you that while the seeming lack of geographic diversity certainly exists, most often it seems to turn off more in-state students while in the application process than OOS students. </p>
<p>I can tell you that once enrolled there, it really isn't an issue. My son's circle of friends is quite diverse not only geographically but also ethnically and internationally. </p>
<p>I'm truly sorry if your daughter had a less than positive application experience. I recently received a PM from another OOS applicant's parent who couldn't stop gushing about how UNC had been head and shoulders above schools like Emory, Rice and other "select" private schools and could serve as a model for how those schools should engage applicants. This was our case as well.</p>
<p>I only wish that our state had a public institution as fine as UNC in as many ways.</p>
<p>thanks eadad for your kind words. It really isn't that we had a bad experience. Just not as good as with the two other schools that really wanted my d. And that is fine. I am sure part of the frustration has been that both accepted her very early on and offered her more. But overall, UNC did fine. So is your D going to UNC or USC?</p>
<p>eadad makes a good point...my d is excited at the idea of attending an out of state school because it brings her into contact with someone other than Texans. Not that she doesn't love her fellow Texans...lol! She's just an adventurous soul who likes new experiences. So I guess it is the perspective from which you view the situation. </p>
<p>Also...I am STILL not convinced that beatduke's daughter won't find an acceptance letter from UNC in that mailbox!</p>
<p>I certainly didn't detect "outrage" in jack's post or anyone else's for that matter, so I'm not sure where you're getting that. She does point out that as far as diversity that one can "see", GT has a high percentage of males. She also references about the same percentage that you give for the oos students at GT (~30%). The other type of diversity that one can "see" would be racial diversity, and GT and UNC are fairly similar here, though GT enrolls more Asians and UNC more blacks as a percentage. If it's important to you that your daughter attend a school with a larger percentage of oos students, that's fine. We all place greater importance on different factors when choosing a college. Thankfully there are lots of great schools to choose from.</p>
<p>beatduke: Hi; thanks for the reply. Your post did not "outrage" me at all. Wow. I'm sorry if you read it that way. </p>
<p>I'm sure your daughter will love Georgia Tech. I would hope that most people choose schools based on the best fit for them. For my daughter, UNC also stood head and shoulders above the rest--in absolutely every aspect--and it was the perfect choice for her. If your daughter is equally happy with Georgia Tech next year, then she will certainly have made the right decision, and you can rest easy.</p>
<p>But, obviously, any state university will naturally have a larger percentage of students from its own state. That's true for every state in the country, I believe. That was really my earlier point. And I don't think anyone has ever hidden the fact that an out-of-state admittance to UNC is highly competitive. Nevertheless, I'm sorry that your daughter didn't feel strongly enough about UNC to wait another 2 weeks for the reply. Although some schools send out early "likely letters," most RD decisions really don't come out until April 1. At least that was our experience. UNC has early action, not binding, so she could have applied earlier and known her decision back in January.</p>
<p>Clearly, though, she has chosen another terrific school and one that is obviously a happy fit for her, and that's very exciting! I wish her all the best.</p>
<p>I know it's hard to wait for a response after submitting your application to UNC, but I truly can't understand why someone would apply and then be annoyed at not getting a response before the posted dates. UNC has had the same time schedule year after year, and everyone should have known those dates before they even decided to apply.</p>