Wake Forest or Lehigh?

<p>Wake Forest and Lehigh are my top schools, and I really need help deciding which one I would like more. First off, the academics I think are equally good so I want to focus on the social life.</p>

<p>I love to party, and both schools seem to have a good party scene, but Lehigh seems to be more fun. I've read all over that wfu has a lot tougher workload, especially for calloway business school which is what I want to do. I want to have free time in college and love it and be able to party. </p>

<p>Second, are people at both schools snobby? I don't want Greek life (which I'll most likely join) to be exclusive and cliquey like high school. Will I still be able to get into fun parties as a freshman guy?</p>

<p>Help! Which one has a better social scene/atmosphere? Is Wake Forest too southern and exclusive with the Greek life? Is Lehigh more open-minded and less cliquey?</p>

<p>Hey bro, I’m a freshman at Wake. I don’t really know much about Lehigh (I’m a southern kid and basically only looked at southern schools haha) but I can tell you about Wake.</p>

<p>I’m not into the whole party scene, but the majority of students are, so I’ve been exposed to it a lot. Wake definitely has a tough workload, which will be something you’ll have to factor in. Usually, you need to have around a 3.4 GPA or above to get into Calloway. 3.2 might get you in, but it’s iffy. Pulling off a 3.4 at Wake, though, is no small feat. You have to be serious about academics. Honestly if you’re interested in Accounting, I wouldn’t recommend going Greek. The accounting program is really intense, and I don’t know how you’d pull it off as a frat boy. Your decision. Most folks balance academics and Greek life well. You just have to be responsible.</p>

<p>People here are not snobby at all man. I’ve been to other schools like UNC and UVA visiting friends, and the frat parties are almost impossible to get into. At Wake it’s super easy. Freshman year you’re basically in everywhere. Obviously once you get to be an upperclassmen you have to be a brother to get in. But that’s only normal. People are welcoming.</p>

<p>Honestly Wake is still southern but there are so many northern kids that you dont feel like youre in some hick culture. It’s a lot of old school, southern, classy gentlemen and “belles” that make up the sub-Mason-Dixon Line student population.</p>

<p>TL;DR: Wake is not exclusive. Great school. I love it, and I know you’d have blast in the Forest.</p>

<p>My son is a freshman and absolutely LOVES Wake, especially the social life! As a matter of fact, his favorite thing about it is how friendly, nice and inclusive everyone is. Freshman guys spend all first semester “rushing” fraternities - going to parties, tailgates, etc - you will have NO problem taking part in Greek life freshman year if that is your interest. He had several friends visit him this past semester, and they went along with him to parties and such and everyone was very welcoming. He would certainly say, Wake is not cliquey at all.</p>

<p>As far as academics, he finished out his first semester with a 3.5, which is pretty good considering his very active social life. Yes, he worked hard but he thought is was actually “easier” than high school because he had so much more time. He also got involved in another on-campus, non-Greek activity, so he had a fairly full plate. He is not studying business, but some of his friends are and they all seem to manage it well. I will say, that he did attend a very rigorous high school, so he went to Wake accustomed to lots of hard work.</p>

<p>You should visit both schools and see which is a better fit. Both are great schools, so it’s a win-win situation. My son had a tough time deciding too but his visits during the spring solidified his decision. Truthfully, I think it was the abundance of beautiful girls on campus… </p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>Hi, collegequestion9 - </p>

<p>I looked at both schools, so maybe I can help. Lehigh is definitely a huge party school, but I think Wake is a really fun place to be. Both schools have a great party scene and great business programs. I would say that people at both schools are not snobby and both schools have big Greek life. As a freshman guy, you can definitely go to Greek parties at Wake. </p>

<p>I would honestly say that the atmospheres at the two schools are very similar. I picked Wake because of the weather, the ACC, and the gorgeous campus (also, in my opinion, Wake has the better business program, although Lehigh’s is great too). I don’t think that Wake is “too southern” - it is definitely a southern school, but the 2nd most represented state is New Jersey.</p>

<p>I also completely disagree with GreenLightSeven - most people in the business school in GENERAL, including the accounting program, ARE Greek!!! Going Greek should NOT in ANY WAY deter you from pursuing an accounting major, or any business degree for that matter. I am in the business school and it is definitely worth it. I would also NOT say that you need a 3.4 or above to get into the business school. I don’t think you can really get in if you are lower than a 3.0, but a 3.4 is a great GPA and definitely not the “minimum GPA” to get into the business school. I would say that with a 3.0 and at least a B in Econ/Accounting/Calculus should help you get into the business school. </p>

<p>Please let me know if you have any other specific questions about either school. I visited Lehigh twice and one of my friends attends, and I am a current senior at Wake Forest.</p>

<p>Best of luck with everything!</p>

<p>haha pinkcupcake, chill outttt. In the business school meeting we had, they said that a 3.4 was a “comfortable GPA to have” for admission, and that a “3.2 was iffy but usually okay.” Just relaying what I heard. Sorry that it made you so mad. And most accounting majors i know are GDIs. Again, forgive my factual discrepancies…just answering the best i could… And are you on here all the time? Like, not trying to be incendiary, but i think you’ve commented on every single post in the entire Wake discussion board. At least you have school spirit…</p>

<p>Pink: Don’t let GreenLight’s rude comments keep you from posting. You have been nothing but helpful and supportive to so many. While commenting on Wake’s many fine attributes, you have always been respectful of other schools and left it to each individual to choose the campus that is the best fit for him/her. Not sure why Green Light felt the need to attack you. You don’t need to “chill outttt” because you already are chill! Best Wishes for a great Senior year!</p>

<p>I thought GreenLight’s statements were helpful, thanks GreenLight. I too am interested in business, so the whole discussion is a good one.</p>

<p>@GreenLightSeven:</p>

<p>I think you are confusing my rebuttal answer for anger. Fortunately I don’t get angry at anonymous strangers on the Internet. As a senior business major, I do think that I know the make up of the programs pretty well. I’m sorry that you have to result to petty insults about always being online. Your profile indicates that you’re a freshman so I’m simply trying to give another point of view. :slight_smile: Further, note that I disagreed with you but did not say that you were wrong. </p>

<p>@Helpermom:</p>

<p>Thank you for the kind words! I come to College Confidential to answer questions for new students and parents since, when I was looking at schools, the Wake board was completely dead and no one was around to answer anything. Even now, there are very few regulars who are still students (although parents of students and alumni are also extremely helpful with their points of view). I don’t want incoming students to feel like they have no access to the school unless they visit! I was choosing between Wake & NYU and all of my NYU questions got answered while the Wake ones didn’t.</p>

<p>The academics between Lehigh and Wake aren’t the same. Wake is a significantly better school unless you’re in the engineering school at Lehigh. If you want to be an engineer go to Lehigh fast. A Wake degree opens a lot more doors than one from Lehigh.</p>

<p>As a Lehigh mom to be, I will respectfully disagree with mothersodear. As far as earnings after graduation, Lehigh and MIT are tied at 6th place… I think if you scan down the list you can find Wake Forest at #31. I think the academics are probably similar for the business school, Lehigh students get recruited often to wall street jobs. Wake forest degrees may open more doors but they are to lower paying jobs apparently?</p>

<p>Bristmum, the cost of living is also higher in the northeastern US, where Lehigh and MIT are. If you look at the earnings list, most southern schools are lower because the cost of living in the south is less. So even though the dollar-value of the education at Lehigh might be more than Wake initially, the “purchasing power” of the dollar is closer to equal. Wake is a huge name in the southeast as far as business networking goes, so most Wake grads are getting jobs in places like the Carolinas and Georgia, where the cost of living isn’t as high as Massachusetts or Connecticut.</p>