Wake Forest vs. UNC-Chapel Hill

<p>So my number one choice for a while, Bowdoin College, gave me no financial aid and so it's no longer a viable option. I've been accepted to other colleges, but it's really down to Wake and UNC. </p>

<p>I got the Presidential Scholarship at Wake Forest and I called the financial aid office and they told me that they were giving me an additional $5000, and my parents can afford Wake with that. But I also got a $2500 scholarship at UNC. UNC will be cheaper, and I have two siblings that will also be going to college in the next couple years.</p>

<p>I want to major in history and probably double major in art, and I know that UNC has a great history program but I'm not sure about Wake Forest's. Also, I liked Wake Forest's art department a lot more than UNC's.</p>

<p>I liked Wake Forest much more than UNC on the the times I have visited. Being an in-stater, I know a lot of my high school peers that will be going to UNC, and I can't stand some of them. UNC is a big campus though, and I probably won't see many of them unless I go out of my way. Something I'm worried about at Wake Forest is that it might be too small, and I don't want to join a fraternity. </p>

<p>Advice?</p>

<p>First- history: I am a history major and really like the professors and courses. For the most part the classes have a lot of reading but every history class you take at Wake will be less than 30 people and classes will be a lot of discussion usually. I ended up choosing to major in history over some other departments pretty much only because of the professors in the department (not all are great from what I hear, but the 4 I’ve had have been great)</p>

<p>2nd: Financials is a personal family decision that you must make with your parents, however if they are the same cost and you liked Wake more, then I’d think you’d want to go to Wake.</p>

<p>3rd: I don’t really find Wake too small…its perfect size for me, but this really is another personal matter. If I don’t want to see someone on campus, it’s pretty easy to not see them haha. But Wake is small enough that you can see anyone you want if you make the effort. Plenty of guys aren’t in fraternities, and I know some who didn’t think they’d join one but ended up doing so. Frat parties are open to everyone if that matters.</p>

<p>I met with some of the history professors while at UNC and heard a history professor speak while at Wake. They all seemed to be very good professors and really seemed to care about their students.</p>

<p>You might ask Wake Forest’s financial aid office what your Financial Aid package would look like (all other things remaining the same) if you had a sibling in college. As I understand it, Financial Aid generally increases with another sibling in college at the same time.</p>

<p>Might be worth a call anyway.</p>

<p>I’m one of those WF alums who never joined a fraternity and was plenty happy.</p>

<p>I might be biased, but I’ve always thought UNC was overrated. That being said, I still think both are respectable schools. If money wasn’t an issue, I’d say Wake hands down (I visited UNC and hated it, although clearly there are lots of people who love it). However, if money is an issue, that can be super hard. I’m sure you’d be fine at either school; the Presidential scholarship is a big deal though! May I ask what it is for?</p>

<p>I got the presidential scholarship for art. I don’t think finances will be too much of an issue in the decision, thank goodness.</p>

<p>I was a history major at Wake Forest and I thought the department was great. My senior honors seminar had 6 students in it and most of my classes had between 15-25 students. Of course, the history department at UNC is going to be top-notch as well.</p>

<p>In high school, I also visited UNC and while it is an excellent school, it was too big for me. I think that with costs being equal, you just have to pick the school that you would be happiest at. </p>

<p>If you have any questions about the history department at WFU let me know!</p>

<p>But, either way, you are going to be attending a wonderful school, so take solace in that at least!</p>

<p>I do have a question about history! I was wondering if you knew that the history department at Wake is successful at getting their students into grad school for history? I’m interested in that</p>

<p>In general, graduate schools recognize Wake as a difficult school with excellent academic quality. Two seniors I know in my current history class are going on to master’s degrees next year at UVA and Harvard…both very good schools for history</p>

<p>Not sure, but I would recommend emailing the history department head (google wake history department to find a #) and asking them yourself. Many history majors, from what I’ve seen, go on to law, medical school, teach for america or just regular jobs</p>

<p>I thought I wanted to go the PhD route until my senior year, and I thought my professors were very helpful. My adviser is very well known in his field (which is what I am interested in) so that was certainly helpful too. I would try to get to know a few professors very well, take a few classes with them, etc. With anything academic for grad school, your recommendations, SOP (statement of purpose), and writing sample are going to be AS important (if not more important) than your transcript. </p>

<p>I would also look into what languages you would potentially be using, because most PhD programs are going to want between 1-3 languages (even if you are an Americanist!)</p>

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<p>Best of luck.</p>

<p>I’m going to Wake :slight_smile: & Wake’s campus is infinitely more beautiful & serene compared to UNC</p>

<p>unfortunately, the beauty of a campus matters so little in your college experience I wouldn’t even consider it in choosing between schools</p>

<p>You must be joking! Go to UNC straight away… Wake does not hold a candle to UNC in most departments and in terms of name recognition, UNC Chapel Hill is leaps ahead of Wake Forest. Congrats to you as you are clearly capable and deserving!</p>

<p>Wake was known as a pre-professional school…business and pre-med etc… I am sure it’s history program cannot match UNC Chapel Hill’s… At the end of the day, a “B” at Wake is worth less than a “B” at UNC Chapel Hill…in the Humanities at least. To me, your choice is obvious…from a financial and academic standpoint :)</p>

<p>I mean that’s just false. UNC may have a higher ranked history department for grad school, but for undergrad their reputation within the academic world is pretty similar. UNC is far more prestigious to the general public, but I wouldn’t necessarily say so with regard to academia. </p>

<p>Also, Wake is known for grade deflation, so a B would be worth a lot. UNC is a great school with a great with probably a great humanities department (as well as great pre-med/business programs). However you’re gonna find much larger classes at UNC, even for humanities. That’s a fact.</p>

<p>“You must be joking! Go to UNC straight away… Wake does not hold a candle to UNC in most departments and in terms of name recognition, UNC Chapel Hill is leaps ahead of Wake Forest.”</p>

<p>Um… no. </p>

<p>Anyway, from your post I honestly feel as if you are leaning towards Wake. Go to the school that makes you happy!</p>

<p>You want to study history…or the arts and not business nor premed… Go with UNC! Wake Forest is decidedly NOT known for humanities. It is a pre-professional school. Go with the strength… PS I never attended Wake nor UNC but I am going by reputation in humanities…</p>

<p>hardly comperable, UNC is ginormous, whereas wake is nice and small.
Very similar prestige, weather, etc, so its really about the class sizes you want and the experience you want from college.
And money o’course</p>

<p>i’m also having this same problem but in a slightly different way. i’m currently at wake forest studying theater and it’s okay i guess, but i visited UNC Chapel Hill this weekend and absolutely loved the area. however, i would be transferring as a junior and my conerns are that that my credits won’t all transfer directly so i’ll be stuck repeating certain gen ed. courses of having my theater courses not count toward the ones required by UNC. also, i really want to study abroad at univeristy college dublin which i know is an abroad program that unc offers, whereas here at wake it’s an affiliate program. basically, i want to know if it’s work it for the BA theater degree. which school is more well known for its theater department? it seems like wake forest has less theater classes, but more requirements for the major which leads me to believe it would be more prestigious for theater, but UNC is a larger and probably more well known school and i’m wondering if their theater degree would mean more after graduation. is it worth it to go through the transfer process? any help at all is appreicated, thank you!</p>

<p>If you really are not enjoying school, maybe you should transfer. It’s really a personal decision. Just know that if you go abroad and transfer you’ll only have 1.5 semesters at UNC…do you know anyone at UNC? I don’t think you can base theater program’s prestige on # of classes/requirements…i’m not sure which is “better” tho</p>

<p>I transferred, after my freshman year, and honestly couldn’t imagine transferring after my sophomore year BUT that’s just my personal feeling and I know plenty of ppl who transferred to Wake as juniors and are having an amazing time.</p>

<p>Also think about what you don’t like about Wake and think if UNC offers those things that UNC doesn’t have.</p>

<p>Here’s the deal: people who feels burnt-out at Wake after 1st semester transfers to either Clemson or UNC Chapel Hill…I hardly knew anyone who transferred the other way around. I’m not saying UNC Chapel Hill is a bad school, clearly it’s excellent. I’m saying that the workload at Wake is incredibly hard…so, based your decision on that.</p>