WAKE FOREST VS. UVA/Cornell

<p>I applied to both uva and cornell and didnt get accepted. I decided on Wake, but would liek to transfer to either of these schools. I am interested in business, how does Wakes program compare to either UVA mcintire and Cornell aem? </p>

<p>I finished with a cumulative GPA of 3.8 in high school increasing significantly every year, also got a 4.4 my senior year first semester. I have good ecs and work experience and 29 ACT/ 1980 SAT. I am planning on going to Wake Forest for a year and then trying to transfer for sophomore year fall admission, I am looking to major in business, what gpa would I need to transfer to either UVA cas, eventually mcintire or cornell aem? Because of Wake is known for tough grading would anything above a 3.5 be above average chances?</p>

<p>I think you’re really on the wrong board right now. Most people who go to Wake are really enthusiastic about Wake and don’t really want to advise someone on how to best transfer out of here…</p>

<p>what are the pros and cons to each school, if you go to wake could you elaborate on the workload and grade deflation></p>

<p>Workload is hard and it is difficult to get good grades but if you put a lot of time and work into it you’ll do well. I also applied to UVA and Cornell. A GPA above 3.5 is attainable freshman year.</p>

<p>If one works hard at wake it is possible to do well freshman year (first semester) above 3.6?</p>

<p>“If one works hard at wake it is possible to do well freshman year (first semester) above 3.6?”</p>

<p>Yes</p>

<p>Arguably freshman year is one of the easiest years to have super high GPAs. My highest GPAs at Wake have been freshman and senior year, freshman year because you haven’t started your upper level classes and senior year because you’ve generally finished your major classes.</p>

<p>if you dont mind me asking what was your GPA freshman year? and do you get to pick your teachers freshman year?
scarlet</p>

<p>bigtuna – while I understand Wake wasn’t your first choice, and you’re clearly disappointed about not getting into UVA/Cornell, I hope you’ll give Wake a chance. It’s an excellent school, and the Calloway School has a great reputation. Starting your first year with the attitude that you’re just waiting to transfer out will surely put an huge damper on your experiences at Wake. Going in with a more positive outlook will go a long way toward making your freshman year more enjoyable – and who knows? You may end up deciding to stay. </p>

<p>You register online for 1st semester courses during Freshman Orientation. It’s a lottery system, so obviously if you have an early registration time, you have more choices about class sections/professors. According to D (graduating in 2 weeks!), it’s good to pay attention to professor ratings AND ask other students.</p>

<p>I went to Wake Forest “for a year” before my planned transfer to a larger university, and wound up getting both my bachelor’s and master’s from Wake.</p>

<p>gadad what made you stay at wake? I dont want to go in with the mindset of transferring I am just keeping my options open, for a finance investment banking track, both cornell and UVA are a tier above wake in the recruiting on wall street. That is alos playing a factor</p>

<p>dont go to wake, so there might be a spot for me on the waiting list</p>

<p>After the first couple of weeks there, I was so connected and bonded with the new friends I’d made, that I never again really seriously considered leaving.</p>

<p>You should aim for a 3.8 for transferring “up” after one year, particularly given your relatively low test scores. (Biz schools like to think that they are quantitative, so a math score above 700 really helps for top program, particularly if you are OOS.) Also note that Cornell’s AEM program is part of the Ag school, so Bio is required prior to transferring. And Frosh Bio at all college is full of premeds, working hard for THEIR grades, so competition is tougher.</p>

<p>That being said, IMO, the Work Forest label is over-blown. Sure a 3.2 mean might be lower than grade-inflated programs with a 3.4+, but the competition at Wake is lower too. (Compare % of high school grads in top 10% vs. Emory, for example.)</p>

<p>I have one son who’s graduating from Cornell next week, and one just finishing his sophomore year at Wake. My older son is a bio major, but I know that he and his friends talk about AEM like it was a joke major, not really “business,” maybe because it’s in CALS and not affiliated with the Johnson School. My Wake son is in Calloway and loving it, majoring in finance. Wake is MUCH smaller than Cornell and, as such, affords a much more personal learning experience in the first years (my son actually runs with the dean of the business school on Thursday mornings, you won’t find that at Cornell). Give Wake a chance, and if an Ivy degree is important to you the decision to transfer is yours.</p>

<p>“…he and his friends talk about AEM like it was a joke major,…”</p>

<p>probably typical arrogance of science majors over business majors, everyplace.</p>

<p>“…maybe because it’s in CALS and not affiliated with the Johnson School.”</p>

<p>I doubt it. AEM is currently considered better, as an undergrad program, than the Johnson school is as a grad program. Whether or not science majors think business is a joke major, what I hear is that AEM is currently the most selective program for undergraduate entry at Cornell, and its gards are doing well afterwards. Wasn’t like that in my day, but times change, evidently.</p>

<p>It has been many years since I studied AEM at Cornell, but I am disappointed to hear the students in other majors continue the tradition of “intellectual bullying” the AEM students. More disappointing still is reading a parent repeat that nonsense like there is some validity to it. There is no such thing as a joke major at Cornell, or any of the Ivies. In fact, I think it is fair to say there is no such thing as a joke major at any of the top 20-30 schools.</p>

<p>That said my advice to you, bigtuna (love the name, btw), is to go all in at Wake Forest. Don’t go with the thought that it will be one year and out. Give Wake a full chance. If it doesn’t work out so be it move on. The schools you have listed are great options. My AEM Cornell degree has served me extremely well throughout my career. Moreover, I work with several UVa grads that are very impressive and capable. That said, if I had an applicant sitting in front of me from Wake Forest, I would be equally impressed by the challenge he chose to take on by graduating from such a high quality school.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies I actually got off the waitlist at Villanova school of business and decided to attend there do you think I made the right decision? from what I gleaned both are comparable academically so it came down to other factors.</p>