<p>9/11 was fresh on everyones mind. People now have forgotten what those muslim terrorists want to do with us. Alexandre doesnt realize that if Hezbullah has its way he will be dead as will and as will you</p>
<p>I heard an interesting report on the attak on Quafa (think im spelling it right), but it is only a report, not proven fact</p>
<p>According to the report, which was said to be from a person associated with Hezbolla, not only was there a rocket launcher on top of the building, making it a millitary target, Hezbolla rounded up crippled children and put them in the basement to die.</p>
<p>It's not an impossible idea. Israel wastes time, manpower, and money attacking non-millitary targets, and why do it in Quafa with their history there? It would be completely against their best interests.</p>
<p>Let me set up a little hypothetical.</p>
<p>Mexico has a radical terrorist group, which hates America, and controls the Northern part of Mexico. This group also holds 1/5 of the national Mexican government. The group comes over the border, kidnaps American national guard troops on the border, and then starts firing rockets into Texas. </p>
<p>We'd have done the same as Israel. No wait, we wouldn't. If that happened to us there wouldn't even be life in the northern part of Mexico. If you ask me, Israel is playing too nice.</p>
<p>We'd leave life in the northern part of mexico, but we would invade and secure the area.</p>
<p>Then again, alot of nothern mexico has snuck into the USA. the US really needs to pressure the Mexican government to make it easier to allow citizens to emigrate so they can come to the US legally</p>
<p>"Israel isnt enemies with Lebanon."</p>
<p>It is now.</p>
<p>"We'd have done the same as Israel. No wait, we wouldn't. If that happened to us there wouldn't even be life in the northern part of Mexico. If you ask me, Israel is playing too nice."</p>
<p>Really what about the Iran Hostages in the 80's we didnt go on any offensive strike against them in the scenario you insist would happen if someone messed with our POWs</p>
<p>"mexico has snuck into the USA. the US really needs to pressure the Mexican government to make it easier to allow citizens to emigrate so they can come to the US legally"</p>
<p>This doesnt belong on here... stick to the issue Post it elsewhere and I'll be more than happy to discuss this with you... but mexico is irrelevent to Hezbollah, Israel, or Lebanon.</p>
<p>"Jesus Christ...was there this much argument on cc when we went into afghanistan?"</p>
<p>Where were you? Why wait for someone else to do it... You could very well have answered your own question.</p>
<p>It is clear to me that the majority of Americans are pro-Israel this I believe is partly due to the fact that most Americans fear, hate, and are not tru****l of what they do not know about... Most Americans get their perceptions of people, places and things from the television... we have been inculcated from the outset that Muslims are terrorists and that they are not to be trusted just look at how Hollywood portrays Islam in the movies and how the media is quick to assume they are at fault regardless of the situation. </p>
<p>It is too easy to label someone a terrorist because they kill someone without knowing full well the reasons behind any violence... If this were the case than everyone is a terrorist... Is Israel and the U.S. clear of any blame because their actions are not publicized and scrutinized as those of other people?</p>
<p>Look at things in a subjective manner do not allow the way you were nurtured to interfere with your judgement and analysis of situations.</p>
<p>Because Carter wasn't threatening...once Reagan came into office Iran knew he wasn't gonna play ball their way (later outlined in libya) so they released the hostages</p>
<p>"Because Carter wasn't threatening...once Reagan came into office Iran knew he wasn't gonna play ball their way (later outlined in libya) so they released the hostages"</p>
<p>So it depends on who is in leadership is what your'e saying... so there are conditions to your scenario it isn't unwavering? Listen don't set up Hypotheticals they are a waste to discuss because no one... NO ONE knows the outcome.</p>
<p>"This doesnt belong on here... stick to the issue Post it elsewhere and I'll be more than happy to discuss this with you... but mexico is irrelevent to Hezbollah, Israel, or Lebanon."</p>
<p>Who asked you? Its called an analogy</p>
<p>Hey you were the one that brought up the Iran Hostage Crisis and asked how we didnt use force...I just told you...nothing implied about any other current leader</p>
<p>Look how the iran hostage crisis turned out. they didn't come home for 400+ days, were tortured, and were only releases because Regan won the election. Aslo, accordng to some hostages, the Iranian President is one of their torturers.</p>
<p>Israel doesn't feel that that type of outcome is favorable to its national security and the security of the regions, so it wants the soldiers, to whom it promised not to leave behind or forget, back.</p>
<p>Ofcourse I'm going to repond to a hypothetical with one of my own... How else would I give you an answer... its pointless with you... you win the cookie my bad.</p>
<p>Skisalomn, Israel attacked Lebanon. You can spin it anyway you want, but Israel acted as a fascist imperialist in Lebanon since 1982.</p>
<p>Hope it white chocolate macadamia nut</p>
<p>and if we don't think hypothetically, how do people ever come to a hypothesis? You just threw a wrench into the scientific process, along with the idea of planning ahead</p>
<p>Look at my previous post beofre the cookie part but right after the hypothetical reference. Answers all your questions.</p>
<p>attacking is the only way isreal can ever hope to get its soldier's back. its not so much that they are uniwlling to negotiate with terrorists, just that terrorists cannot be negitiated with. No diplomacy short of the abolishment of the israli governement will get the soldiers back, let alone stop the hezbolla rocket attacks, which are all aimed to kill civilians and civilians only.</p>
<p>At least a hatred of jewish people keeps the muslim radicals from killing each other. Iraq has no jews to speak of, so the radicals are forced to kill each other to satisfy their blood lust.</p>
<p>Only problem is, they don't stick with killing other radical muslims. they murder regular muslims as well</p>
<p>Sidenote: remember when osama said to kill america? now he wants people to kill shi'ites.</p>
<p>ah, but I didnt ask you a hypothetical question now did I?</p>
<p>And I like monster cookies</p>
<p>facts:</p>
<p>Hezbollah targets civilians.</p>
<p>Israel targets terrorists (and end up hurting civilians as collateral damage due to the terrorists sickening use of them as human shields).</p>
<p>Ok, here's your non-hypothetical question:</p>
<p>"Is Israel and the U.S. clear of any blame because their actions are not publicized and scrutinized as those of other people?"</p>
<p>You want to focus on the war in lebanon. there are no U.S. soldiers in lebanon, save the marines guarding the embassy.</p>
<p>Israel's not being scrutinized? Have you watched any news the last few weeks? Israel's getting pouned by the media. Israeli attacks recieve far more attention than Hezbolla rocket attacks.</p>
<p>Israel is probably the most scrutinized country in the world. Come on.</p>
<p>"Israel's not being scrutinized? Have you watched any news the last few weeks? Israel's getting pouned by the media. Israeli attacks recieve far more attention than Hezbolla rocket attacks."</p>
<p>Yes as a matter of fact its all Iv'e been doing and they are doing nothing but bashing Hezbollah and the Lebanon government whenever Mel Gibson is not mentioned about his anti-semitic comments (clearly a scpegoat) although I do not dismiss his actions and find them equally appalling. Israel has yet to receive any blame from the conservative media. I get all my stuff from independent sources Id recommend the same for you. If you call how the U.S. media portrays Israel scrutiny then you are clearly biased and have a strong conflicting reason to back Israel in the manner that you do.</p>