<p>we just got an email that my son was admitted,, even though previously he was denied in Jan. The email said they "reexamine" applicants. Totally unexpected and very happy about this. I wonder if they underadmit for the first round, see what happens, then go out and make offers to kids that did send in their deposit by May 1.</p>
<p>Anyone else have this happen?</p>
<p>This might be perfect timing with the economy coming back in 4 years.</p>
<p>that probably means the yield rate for Ross preadmit is too low. They overestimated their attractiveness, or they took too many overqualified kids; or they might have underestimated the effect of the wall street “collapse” on the uninformed minds of high school students. Many different reasons can contribute to this. It’s all stochastic probabilities :-p</p>
<p>Yup, it’s likely because they had a yield that was lower than expected or because they need the money and are choosing to admit some more kids. Every kid I know who got in, including pre-admits, chose to go somewhere else because of the economy. I actually knew one kid who was seriously considering it and then his parents made him go to Cornell. Congrat though. He was clearly very qualified and they must have overlooked him the first time for illegitimate reasons. Ross is spectacular and he will have great opportunities there.</p>
<p>we were surprised because this happened after we sent in our deposit and we are in-state, he had other choices (top privates) but they were too expensive and we went with Michigan.</p>
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Huh? The OP’s son was admitted to Michigan but initially not pre-admitted to Ross. So how would that bring more money to the university?</p>
<p>More money to Ross itself. Ross tuition is higher than LSA tuition.</p>
<p>Yes, business schools are normally more expensive than the normal college of languages, arts, and sciences at public universities. Or at least that’s what I’ve found in my personal admission experience. When there are so many talented students applying for pre-admit, I think it would be a wise decision to accept some more students and get extra tuition. However, I’m not 100% that the business school has a higher tuition. I just kind of assumed it did.</p>
<p>I am not sure Ross is more expensive than LSA, but if it is, the difference will be small.</p>
<p>I know at University of Illinois tuition is at least a couple of grand more if you’re studying business or engineering. Over ten grand during a college career could be significant amount of money to many. We should find out if Ross is more expensive.</p>
<p>for business, lower division (freshman sophomore) pay LSA tuition. Upper division (juniors and seniors) pay 400 more for residents and 200 more for OOS</p>
<p>rather insignificant compared to the extra tuition engineering students pay that amount to more than a thousand</p>
<p>Taxi, the difference between $42,000 and $44,000 is insignificant. If $42,000 is affordable, so is $44,000. If $44,000 is unaffordable, so is $42,000. </p>
<p>I agree that $10,000 is a lot of money, but not when you take it in the context of $180,000 or $200,000. </p>
<p>At any rate, at Michigan, Engineering and Kines are roughly $1,500/year more expensive than LSA. Last time I checked, Ross tuition was identical to LSA. This may have changed, but I doubt it.</p>
<p>[Full</a> Term Tuition and Fees](<a href=“http://www.umich.edu/~regoff/tuition/full.html#Lower_Gen]Full”>http://www.umich.edu/~regoff/tuition/full.html#Lower_Gen)</p>
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Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you post erroneous information or opinion.</p>
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<li>Ross pre-admit students are admitted into LSA for the first year and pay LSA tuition. Note the term “pre-admit” means that these students are not in Ross yet. </li>
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<p>In the second year, they will enroll in Ross together with the other sophomore Ross students, and pay the same tuition as LSA sophomores.</p>
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<li>Ross limits the class to around 350 regardless of how many it pre-admits.</li>
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<p>So tell me again, how would this bring in more money for the university?</p>
<p>The cost of enrolling in Ross may be identical to that of LSA, but I can assure you are wrong about ten thousand dollars.</p>
<p>Any amount of money can be a significant amount of money. Clearly there aren’t many people on the Michigan forum who wonder how they’re going to afford the $3,000 difference between their financial aid award and their cost of attendance, but I can assure you that there are on other college’s forums. This is probably because Michigan is a public school and doesn’t really offer much financial aid for out of state students, but there are definitely in-state students who have that problem. I agree that if you’re talking about $10,000 in comparison to $180,000-$200,000 in loans it’s not too significant. However, you don’t know what kind of financial packages or scholarships people are receiving that are lowering their cost of attendance, and I know many families who would consider $10,000 to be a deal breaker.</p>
<p>GoBlue81, I was just proposing a possible reason why a student could get bumped up earlier in the thread based on the cost of other public universities. Clearly I was wrong and it’s not the reason. I still think it could be because of the expected yield though.</p>
<p>“However, you don’t know what kind of financial packages or scholarships people are receiving that are lowering their cost of attendance, and I know many families who would consider $10,000 to be a deal breaker.”</p>
<p>I agree Taxi. In the case of a family having to pay $10,000 or $12,500/academic year at Michigan because of need-based assistance, that $2,500/year can indeed make a difference. I was referring to the majority of Michigan students though. </p>
<p>At any rate, like I said, Ross and LSA cost roughly the same, so this is a moot point.</p>
<p>True that. Also true that the majority of out of states students who are attending Michigan are fairly wealthy or at least “comfortable.” So do you think the OPs situation is a result of the fact that U of M’s yield wasn’t as high as they thought it would be? Multiple universities were way off on the prediction of their yield, even when they tried to accurately predict how the economy would limit prospective students from attending.</p>
<p>I think Michigan erred on the side of caution this year. The admissions office probably admitted based on the assuption that the yield would be in 45%-47% range, knowing that they would most likely have to dip into the wait list. Last year, Michigan only needed to admit 12,000 applicants to get 5,600 students. That’s over a 45% yield rate. This year, Michigan will probably have to admit 13,000 applicants to fill its class.</p>
<p>compensation is being reigned in across business, i.e. Wall Street. The upward sloping pay curve vs. time on the job is flattening, and cost containment is en vogue. However, these things are often cyclical. That said, many students I hear are re-considering business majors in favor of pursuing areas of study they may really enjoy, and that reflect more of a personal choice rather than their parent’s advice (make sure you can get a job after college), or a simple default option. So, yes the yield may be down across the board at business programs this year.</p>
<p>Woah, </p>
<p>I said that by accepting him as a preadmit to Ross the ROSS SCHOOL OF BUSINESS would get more money, not necessarily the university itself. The Ross budget is separate from the LSA budget, which is why you can’t apply LSA scholarships to Ross. </p>
<p>Additionally, Ross tuition is indeed higher than LSA tuition. That is from the Ross financial aid office. For this reason, if you dual enroll in LSA and Ross, you pay Ross tuition.</p>
<p>Again, a Ross pre-admit is by definition not a Ross student yet. He/she is in LSA or Engineering for the first year and pays LSA or Engineering tuition.</p>
<p>Ross pre-admit only grants you admission to Ross in your 2nd year without having to go through the application process (provided you meet certain academic requirements). You only get into Ross (and pay Ross tuition) in your 2nd year just like all the other Ross students. As bearcats pointed out, for the sophomore year, Ross and LSA tuitions are the same (post #2). Ross is only more expensive at the upper level (junior and senior).</p>
<p>Furthermore, Ross limits the class size to around 350 … regardless of how many they pre-admit.</p>
<p>Btw, if U-M wants more tuition money, they can admit more into engineering as it has the highest tuition (and the highest costs) … but of course they can’t do that.</p>