<p>If you don’t want honest answers, the CC forums are not the place to post questions. </p>
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<p>You asked about lying on a federal form. What kind of reply did you expect to get? </p>
<p>NYU does not guarantee to meet full need and it does not. However, there are students who do get full need met and get their best aid package from NYU. If your stats are high for NYU, and given your geographical location, you might be one of such lucky ones. If you arrange to live with your dad more than 50% of the time, his numbers can be used for the FAFSA. It is possible that you can do all right with NYU.</p>
<p>But there is no guarantee. It’s no guarantee you’ll even get accepted there. If you apply to some safety schools and pick them carefully, making sure they are also affordable, go right on ahead and pick some other schools that have some elements of chance regarding aid, admissions, etc.</p>
<p>There isn’t honest answers all I’ve seen on this post is people taking this far to seriously and frankly being a little rude about it. That’s all I am saying.</p>
<p>You people are acting like its the first time anyone lied. Ive heard of people doing I was just wondering if it was advisable… See that is a response that was taken a little toseriously</p>
<p>If you want to have all your student aid taken away, have liens put on your credit and property for repayment, be expelled from school and potentially face federal prison time for defrauding the United States government… then by all means lie on your financial aid paperwork. </p>
<p>Have fun trying to get admitted to medical school, much less licensed to practice, with a moral turpitude felony on your record.</p>
<p>Nobody laughs about these things, because the consequences are real, permanent and very, very unfunny.</p>
<p>Jesus see right there. I never said I was going to do it. I wanted to know about it because I was naive about it. I don’t want to lie on the forum knowing that now but I was just ASKING. You don’t beat your kid for asking what the dot product of 2 vectors is. So why are all of you taking this so personally? I don’t mean to be rude but I think the only constructive posts on this thread is the PROFILE and Western posts that actually gave advice. People need to learn manners, sad but true.</p>
<p>Scienceguy…you asked…and you got answers to your question. I think everyone here now knows that you were only asking. BUT seriously…asking about LYING is something that doesn’t sound naive…bottom line…always be honest. It’s the way to be.</p>
<p>I think you have gotten some good information here, even if some of it was not maybe what you had hoped to hear. As I said in my earlier post…I think you know what you need to do and it will work out. Talk to your mom…and good luck!!</p>
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<p>Sorry, I can’t find any sympathy for someone who complains that their parent can only give them $300 a month for college. Many students make college work without getting money from parents and without having a college fund at all. Many of these students are also students wanting to go to medical school. There are hundreds of fantastic schools out there, and there are PLENTY of great ones that are less than $30K a year. If medical school is your goal then you should not be paying anywhere near that much for undergrad.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, just because a school costs under $30K a year does not mean it’s a bad school that will leave you with no future. Research affordable schools instead of feeling bad because you can’t afford the expensive ones. Research schools from nearby states because sometimes they offer tuition discounts to students in the region.</p>
<p>You don’t know that lying is wrong? That lying on any college applications is wrong? Lying on a federal form is wrong? Lying and getting money for it is wrong? Please. You deserve to get scolded for such a question.</p>
<p>Sorry I am done arguing with you. I don’t know why you even care so much. I was just asking. It was a question, don’t get so bent out of shape. RELAX. </p>
<p>PS forums aren’t for scolding there for helping out future students so they can have a good sense of direction. A senior member should realize that at the very least. (I never said I was going to do it, i asked to see the social view on it whether it was socially acceptable or not, like going 50 in a 45)</p>
<p>NYU is definitely not worth the debt. NYU is probably one of the worst colleges to go to if you have significant financial need. When I was accepted, they met my full need, yes, but they covered half of it (around 25k) with some form of loan. Talk about “aid.”</p>
<p>Believe it or not, NYU’s reputation probably will not have much pull when you apply to medical school. Just go to a school where you will excel.</p>
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Let’s examine this. Forums are open to comments from anyone, thus they can be used for scolding. In this case you asked if you could get away with something dishonest. The parents here are telling you no, and asking if you have any moral fiber. What you asked MIGHT have been about a social view. Now you know what that view is. Commit fraud, lose your scholarship and your degree, go to jail. Got it?</p>
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<p>You asked and you didn’t get the answer you expected. Did you really expect everyone to be like “you know, that could work!” People are being harsh because some people really would go out and do something stupid like that.</p>
<p>I really think people just skip to the drama portions of this thread lol.
I’m not saying I didn’t like the answer I was given. I just thought I deserved a little more than some arrogant response, and quite frankly a little more “grown up” response from some of our “senior members.” E.g. “I wouldn’t recommend it, you could get nailed for fraud.” That is a little more constructive than scolding someone… People take this forum WAY too personally and for some reason it only seems to be the elder members lol.</p>
<p>“thus they can be used for scolding”
What is the point in scolding? I think everyone would like unbiased responses. Wouldn’t that make for a more productive forum?</p>
<p>The point is that there are people who are stupid enough to actually do something like lie on a federal document. The ‘elder members’ take this seriously- and maybe even personally- because here they are doing honest hard work so that their kids can go through school, and here you are wondering if it’s okay to just lie so that you can get free money for school.</p>
<p>Som1 please go on my account n answer my important questions</p>
<p>Judging by the end of your post “free money” you know about as much as I do. According to you it’s okay to give “free money” to kids that have lower income families. Yet kids that have well off parents that decide not to contribute to college ( I am not talking to about me) are criminals because they want to collect the same “free money” as well? That is pretty much everyone’s logic that has posted on this thread and they have yet to realize it. It is also the stance of our government apparently so don’t feel too foolish :).</p>
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<p>Please don’t put words in my mouth. Just because something is not working out for you doesn’t mean that you should go and break laws in order to get your way. I also did not qualify for any grants, and my parents didn’t give me any kind of allowance during college. What did I do? I went to a school I could actually afford. Actually lying about my situation never even crossed my mind. </p>
<p>I think the financial aid system (hell, the whole university system) is flawed in many, many ways, but I would never suggest that someone lie about themselves to get around it. What I would suggest to someone in this situation is to start thinking like a responsible adult. Find schools that you can actually afford to go to and be grateful that you have the chance to go to college.</p>