<p>Tell me my chances!
I know its a "crapshoot" but give me some meaningful insights if you can!</p>
<p>Wharton ED, Columbia RD, Dartmouth RD, UChicago EA</p>
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<p>Rank: 3/768
Unweigthed: 3.64
Weighted: 6.37
(School is in the TOP 20 of America's Best Public Schools By Newsweek)</p>
<p>SAT: 2300
(800M 740W 760CR)</p>
<p>SATII:
MathIIC ?</p>
<h2>Literature ?</h2>
<p>IB Classes:
Math Methods SL 5/7
Chemistry SL 3/7</p>
<p>AP Classes:
Statistics 3/5
Psychology 5/5
Physics B (wthdrwn)
English Language 3/5
Macroeconomics 5/5</p>
<h2>Microeconomic 5/5</h2>
<p>Bad Grades: 5 Bs, 2 Cs
Regular German I B 9th
Honors Chemistry B 10th
Regular German II C 10th
AP European History B 10th
IB Chemistry C 11th
IB English IV B 11th
IB Digital Media B 11th</p>
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<p>Extracurriculars:</p>
<p>Positions:
-President of School's Investment Club
-Editor-in-Chief of School's IB Newspaper
-Reporter for community Newspaper
-Reporter for online Newspaper
-Chairman of Tecnhology for FBLA, member
-Member of Debate Team</p>
<p>-Volunteer Coordinator for Organization Pets-In-Distress
-assist abused pets find homes
-help educate community on pet care
-providing pet companionship programs for Nursing Shelters
(300+ hours)</p>
<p>They all would've been much better bets if you hadn't gotten those C's. Good luck on Wharton, though. They tend to like kids who show a demonstrated interest in business, and you definitely have that. The only thing that would keep you out would be your grades.</p>
<p>The rest don't look too good, though, since they won't care as much for your passion for business.</p>
<p>What your passion is doesnt matter, as long as you have one. How will his grades keep him out? He has top 0.5% rank which means his school must deflate grades. </p>
<p>However I dont think his ECs are strong enough...so I guess you are a crapshoot candidate! BTW I dont see a passion in business, he only has 2 clubs</p>
<p>It's really hard to believe some got 2 Cs and is 3rd in a huge class at a competitive school. Actually, impossible to believe. I've never heard of a cpmpetitive high school where that's possible. That said, if rank is real, he's in with the possible exception of Columbia.</p>
<p>Newsweek's rankings are based solely on the number of AP/IB tests in relation to the number of students. That doesn't mean ANYTHING. NJ public high schools that are ranked (by a local university) much lower than mine are in the top 100 on Newsweek's reports, yet we have kids going to much better colleges than them. Plus, we don't have the IB program, so nobody here has the opportunity to puruse a full IB diploma or whatever.</p>
<p>Therefore I don't believe that his school is competitive.</p>
<p>His passion definitely DOES count for Wharton. I agree that nobody else cares, but I've seen people with almost perfect stats get rejected from Wharton because they didn't have the right interests. Meanwhile, the officers of our MUN club are going there. A specialized school like Wharton definitely <em>does</em> care.</p>
<p>I bet his rank is weighted. Sure, it's helpful to evaluate an applicant in the context of his environment. But C's are generally inexcusable. Plus, every college agrees that grades are the #1 factor. Grades and rank are NOT the same thing. Do you think that C's are excusable at Exeter and Andover?</p>
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<li>I said he doesn't show a strong passion in business not that the passion doesn't matter. If you were referring to the first sentence, I meant for the other schools on his list.</li>
<li>He looks like a perfect stats kid with average ECs to me. He did nothing outside of his school other than volunteering meanwhile the average Wharton student usually has established a business or at least interned at a firm. </li>
<li>Do you see MUN on his list?</li>
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<p>Not to start a flame war; I just wanted to clear this up</p>
<p>Well i don't think his school is competitive either. First the newsweek ranking can not be trusted. There are a bunch of schools that encourage the students to take APs but have many not even taking the test. Also his grades are low. I don't really understand how his ranking works but Cs are bad and I agree.
The last reason that I think that his school is not competitive is that he has low AP scores. If his school is competitive then even with many Bs and some Cs he would get 6 or 7 on the IB and at least 4 on the APs.</p>
<p>I'm guessing the B's and C's were marking period grades not final year course grades. Colleges will only see final grades I'm fairly sure. I don't think it would be possible to have such a rank with even one C for a final average.</p>
<p>3/768? How can grades be any problem. This is a nj high school, most nj schools are competitive. As an aside, I think the pet volunteerism is interesting, if not business related. I think you have a decent chance at all but yes it's a crapshoot. I think you are in at Chicago.</p>
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He looks like a perfect stats kid with average ECs to me.
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I fail to understand how an applicant with C's (unless they were marking period or semester grades) is a perfect stats kid.</p>
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average Wharton student usually has established a business or at least interned at a firm.
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I know someone who got in through tons of leadership and MUN. I know someone else who got in with a 1600, MUN, and by working with the Mayor. I definitely would not say that the <em>average</em> Wharton student has established a business or interned at a firm.</p>
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Do you see MUN on his list?
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Jesus. No. But I see that he has strong leadership in business-related clubs (Investment, FBLA, and Debate). What was the point of that?</p>
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I fail to understand how an applicant with C's (unless they were marking period or semester grades) is a perfect stats kid.
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Again. The gpa is taken with a grain of salt. Every high school marks differently. I'm pretty sure colleges will disregard his gpa completely as soon as they see his rank. </p>
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But I see that he has strong leadership in business-related clubs (Investment, FBLA, and Debate). What was the point of that?
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The point is he doesn't have strong leadership in those clubs. He has leadership in 1.5/3 of his business clubs. I would not say that is strong compared to some of the other Wharton applicants.</p>
<p>How can your GPA when weighted go up to 6.37... What state do you live in? New Mexico? Sorry that was mean... Your grades (unweighted) are decent, I don't know your grading scale so I don't know if it's 90-100 is an A or 94-100 is an A. And really having your school in the top 50 doesn't mean that much. My public school is also known nationally and is rated in all the top public school ratings. But in all honesty, that's just a load of ********. Although I have to give you props for your EC, they're very nice. Although your IB scores aren't that great, they could be a lot better. Your SAT is definitely totally SOLID. Any awards?</p>
<p>As for the schools you're looking into - they're big reaches. Huge reaches, especially Wharton. This year the applicants for Wharton increased by a long shot and so the percentage of people getting in dropped dramatically. I think you should think in more realistic terms.</p>
<p>Try NYU Stern. If you're into business. Hell, if you get into their honors program it'd be better than Wharton. My friend actually turned down Wharton for Stern. She got into the honors which guaranteed her into their Masters. And as you know Masters are more important than undergraduate. But as for CAS, I think you might have a chance - still not a very high one. UPenn has become seriously overrated like Columbia.</p>
<p>As stated in the thread, I think your stats are in place. I find your IB/AP scores peculiarly low for your SAT score... I would suggest NOT sending them in (until AFTER you are accepted) (this is a VERY VERY strong recommendation)
Your grades are a little soft (the B/C's) but your class rank should make up for it IMO.</p>
<p>Being from NJ hurts you.</p>
<p>Your EC's help you. You have a good shot, given your ECs. </p>
<p>By no means is the avg wharton student all big-up on high school business, and what you have is probably slightly above avg.</p>
<p>Penn will care a lot about what you write for your "why penn" essay.</p>
<p>just a random question (since he's applying Wharton ED and Chicago EA)...
Do you think colleges would know if you're applying to more than one school for ED/EA? If they do know, it's def. not a good thing and could be the reason for your rejection. That always hinders me from applying to more than one school for ED/EA</p>
<p>BTW
i think you're just as qualified as any other applicants to Wharton or Chicago... Attending a top public school should be a plus...</p>
<p>Someone here said that even with low gpa, he still has a chance as long as his rank is good.</p>
<p>With that said, it is reasonable to say that I have a chance with a 3.8 uw and 4.46 w? My rank is 1/466 at a decently competitive school. I also took all the Aps at my school (will apply with 7 APs) , and also 3 community college courses.
I dont know if this helps, but I am graduating with three years of high school, meaning that 18 hs is minimum for me to graduate, but I am actually graduating with 25 credits. (I got As in all my AP couses btw)</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>(do you think taking the SAT and scoring a 2200+ along with 6 SAT IIs will boost my chances in terms of academics?)</p>