<p>I would like to know the chances for my daughter:
GPA 4.0 unweighted, 4.1 weighted (top 1% of class- school does not rank)
SAT 2160 (CR 710 MA 690 WR 760- 12 essay)
SAT II US Hist 760 Math IIC 690 (Taking 2 more Saturday)
ACT 33 (Math 35, Reading 36, English 34, Science 28)
AP Lang & Comp-5, AP US Hist-5, AP Psych-5
Very competitive public high school- Mid Atlantic area
All honors and 6 AP's
Very good teacher and GC recs
Very good essays (according to teachers)
Great ECs-
Crew Team (not recruited), Top Orchestra (Ist Chair), Class Officer, NHS officer, Math Honor society, Spanish Honor society, Tri-M, English Honor society, national merit commended, AP scholar, outstanding student in several subjects
Volunteer-
Coach girls BB team, Teach Sunday school, led HUGE fundraiser at school,tutoring various subjects
Schools-
Notre Dame
Cornell
Princeton
Duke
BC
UVA
William and Mary
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
Any other school suggestions?? Thanks in advance for any input!</p>
<p>What does she plan to study? Has she applied already - any early, or all regular admissions?</p>
<p>Probably study something in humanities- excellent writer, maybe psych. I see her possibly going to law school. Notre Dame- EA, the rest regular.</p>
<p>Well, my opinion, for what its worth, would be:</p>
<p>ND - yes
Cornell -maybe
Princeton - no
Duke - maybe
BC - yes
UVA - no (unless in-state)
W&M - yes
N'western - maybe
Vandy - yes</p>
<p>As to others - what about Williams, Barnard, NYU or Brandeis?</p>
<p>Thanks for your input....She doesn't want to go to a school with fewer than 5,000 students, so it has been difficult to find others- likes D1 sports, etc.</p>
<p>Anyone else???</p>
<p>Brandeis (match) and Tufts (reach) have about 4500 students - both in Boston area. I agree with Barnard...While it may only have 2200? students, it's part of Columbia where you can take classes so for all intents and purposes you now have 8000+ students.</p>
<p>What about chances at the schools I listed? These are her favorites. I just don't see her at a college smaller than her high school (approx. 2500). She definitely wants at least 5000.</p>
<p>Princeton--no
Cornell, Duke, UVa--probably not
The rest are possible/probable</p>
<p>Wait, why wouldnt she get into UVA? Jesus, if she cant get in, then I'll never get there. I think that a lot of people on this site have extremely high standards and make a big deal out the competition to get into great schools. Sure it's difficult, but its not impossible. Ma'am, concerning your daughter, I don't know why even Princeton could turn down your daughter with a 4.0 unweighted and a 2200 on the SAT. I'd say she'd get into any of the schools you listed, but then again I'm not the expert</p>
<p>Princeton would turn you down because they get more 2400's and 5.0 vals than there are spots in the class. If you are going to have weaker stats, then you have to have tip top ECs, unique talents or skills, or an insider's track. </p>
<p>I know I have cut schools off my list because my stats don't realistically fit the profile of admitted students, and I have no trump or hook of interest to the school.</p>
<p>UVA is just as tough on OOS without a legacy or special hook.</p>
<p>I assume OOS means "out of state" am i right?</p>
<p>Yes - out of state = OOS</p>
<p>I heard its not that difficult to get into UVA if you live in Virginia. Is this right?</p>
<p>I also heard that UVA doesn't care about ECs as much as GPA and SAT. Is this right?</p>
<p>That is correct because you would be in-state.</p>
<p>Public universities care more about GPA and SAT.</p>
<p>Honestly, I am a bit confused by your chances. A 4.0 unweighted is the same as a 5.0 valedictorian elsewhere. (btw- she will probably be one of the valedictorians). Our school does not weight for honors classes, only .5 for AP. It is mathematically impossible for a student to get much over a 4.2, even if they stack up on AP classes. She has had straight A's in the most rigorous classes available (94-100 is an A), is an athlete, been in leadership positions, and has done a lot of community service. We know test scores are not perfect, but they are respectable. She has been too busy with other activities to become a "master" of the SAT, but the ACT's are pretty good. I agree that Princeton and Duke are a crapshoot for most people, but I really did not think the rest of the list was that far out of reach. I think this illustrates how hard is is to rate people on an even playing field since there are such differences throughout the applicant field. We are actually feeling fairly hopeful about chances-- but are also realistic about how competitive things are this year. Hopefully, there will be some big envelopes.</p>
<p>i would suggest johns hopkins, washington university in st. louis, UNC chapel hill, emory, and perhaps upenn</p>
<p>The sad fact is that great, smart, involved girls from the mid-atlantic and northeast states with good grades, test scores, essays and recs are not uncommon in the applicant pools of the schools you mentioned. Good luck, but make sure she applies to a few real safety schools to avoid disappointment.</p>
<p>From what I know and have read:
Notre Dame - yes (know many students attending and their stats)
Cornell - yes (they take more students than other Ivies - know students there)
Princeton - maybe (but one of top 3 schools)
Duke - maybe
BC - yes (they take about 25% - 30% of applicants)
UVA - don't know
William and Mary - yes (they take about 25%- 30% of applicants)
Northwestern - yes (know many students attending)
Vanderbilt - don't know</p>