"What are my chances??" Games - FOR TRANSFERS!

<p>although i have my own motivation and passion to learn...it's refreshing to know that your peers can share your sentiment about learning and converse with them about your latest ideas or questions</p>

<p>i think those are great reasons...you've definitely got a shot at brown.</p>

<p>I agree completely with quantumguy about UT...I really like the school, but you rarely find anyone who is motivated about anything besides going to parties or in the 'honors' dorm playing SSBM. I was planning on trying to transfer to wharton/gtown but my sat i retook was meh. So right now i'm just aiming for bhp to maybe be put in a better atmosphere.</p>

<p>The BHP is amazing...if you get in, I think you'll definitely be in a different environment as the students in there are top notch.</p>

<p>I can understand not trying for Wharton, but why aren't you giving GTown a shot? How did you do on the SATs and how is your GPA right now?</p>

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my friend that attended Montgomery CC this past year transferred to Rice with a full ride.

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<p>I am not sure what the "full ride" is supposed to add to your statement; Rice does not give merit aid to transfers. There is need-based aid, so obtaining a "full ride" does not mean anything, other than that Rice was willing to complement his estimated financial contribution.</p>

<p>Rice accepts students in the Houston area, but very reluctantly. Just to compare, for freshmen admissions, Rice's out-of-state admit rate is significantly higher than their in-state admit rate. Though I have seen many students accepted to Rice as in-state transfers, I have rarely seen a successful in-Houston transfer.</p>

<p>Recall that Rice's admissions philosophy is "diversity." That should be apparent enough just by reading their application essay topic. They also don't want to encourage the mentality that Houston-CCs/Schools are feeder schools.</p>

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I am not sure what the "full ride" is supposed to add to your statement

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<p>I don't know how financial aid/scholarships work at Rice, but I do know that he was going to attend McCombs at UT until Rice offered to pay for his tuition. </p>

<p>In his own words:</p>

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But Rice offered to pay my tuition, so I'm
going there and they don't need Calc! Score!

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<p>I doubt he is lying, but I can't prove it. My point in stating that is Rice wanted him badly enough to accept him and give him money to attend, despite the fact that he was applying from the greater Houston area. Personally, I didn't see anything <em>exceptional</em> about him as an applicant...in fact, his application and stats are VERY SIMILAR to mine. But this story of a guy transferring from Montgomery CC to 'freakin Rice' may be inspirational to some and encourage them to give it a shot anyways.</p>

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I doubt he is lying, but I can't prove it.

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<p>Yes, you can. Call the admissions office at Rice and ask if there is merit aid for transfers. </p>

<p>I am sure the policy hasn't changed, but when I asked last year, they explicitly stated "no."</p>

<p>The only "bargain" of which I am aware that Rice made is that of housing: some transfers were indeed so desirable that Rice was willing to give them housing. As you may know already, Rice's standard position on housing for transfers is that it is not guaranteed.</p>

<p>I stand corrected. I could prove it if I cared that much.</p>

<p>Regardless of whether or not he received a full ride, he was accepted from a community college in the greater Houston area, and I know for a fact that he currently attends Rice and lives on campus. His case may be a rarity, but it is an example of an impressive leap from a CC to a top university despite the fact that Rice does not like Houston transfers as much.</p>

<p>Weren't you accepted from a university in Houston into Rice but chose Georgetown instead?</p>

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His case may be a rarity, but it is an example of an impressive leap from a CC to a top university despite the fact that Rice does not like Houston transfers as much.

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<p>This is true.</p>

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Weren't you accepted from a university in Houston into Rice but chose Georgetown instead?

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<p>No, I was rejected. I was, however, admitted when I applied as a transfer from Georgetown (and didn't put in even half the effort I put in the application the year before).</p>

<p>i am the one with the lowest numbers
1.) Columbia, Upenn
2.) High school was very mediocre
3.) 800M, 600V, 700W, 630 BIO, 780IIc
4.) HS GPA 4.2/5.0
5.) class rank 5th/300
6.) EC's and awards: Very good
7.) College GPA: 3.65</p>

<p>8.) Extra: transfering from University of Toronto (Canada<---- North of United States of America)</p>

<p>1.) List of schools (UCLA, CAL, Swarthmore, Columbia, Pomona College)
2.) Muy Frekin Competitive High School
3.) 1320 Sat1 (M 680, V640), 650 Writing, 650 Bio, Math 590 (ouch)
4.) 3.9 (Weighted)
5.) I'm not sure.
6.) Very Good
7.) 3.88 (UCSB)</p>

<p>8.) Comm major, but flexible in the liberal arts (just distinguishing myself from business/science majors). I have very similar reasonings as quatumguy actually. UCSB is extremely party-oriented (But at least I think UT has a reason to party..), and I am... not so much.</p>

<p>Newbyreborn what happened to your interest in Dartmouth? Anyways I'm a budding Canadian high school senior and I was wondering what kind of things you did in university as "extra" credentials. It is a bit late for me to do the SATs and all but I'd like to know what my transfer options are later on.</p>

<p>made a thread but figured this was a better place to post my stats...</p>

<p>1.) Michigan, UIUC, CMU, Cornell
2.) Fairly Competitive Public HS
3.) 2270 SAT, 770 760 680 SAT II
4.) 3.62 UW
5.) Top 20%
6.) Very Good EC's
7.) 4.0 at a public state school</p>

<p>I am a physics major but I want to possibly study engineering upon transfer. Are there more schools I should apply to because I don't have a very long list...</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>Yay I love what are my chances threads! I hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving. I also want to keep this thread true to the original intentions so lets see:</p>

<p>1.) List of schools (only pick up to 5 b/c these posts need to be short)
Harvard, Yale, Cornell, UPenn, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Washington University in St. Louis, University of Maryland at Baltimore County,
2.) Description of High School
Ranked 17th Public in the Nation in 2005
3.) SAT / ACT (you may include SATIIs)
Never took. Taking in January but I am still on the fence about whether the effort and studying time to take the SAT IIs is worth it or not. I mean I think I only really need them to get into the upper upper echelon schools that I don't have the fattest chance of getting into anyway so I am not really sure if its worth it.
4.) H.S. GPA (indicated if it's weighted or not)
3.0 +/- .3
5.) class rank (if your school doesn't rank, give your decile)
School does not rank but I would guess within the top 50%
6.) EC's and awards, Don't list them. Just rate them w/the following scale (please be honest):
Outstanding - I will pick this one.
Very Good
Decent
Poor
Non-existent
7.) College GPA
4.0 now but it might go down to like 3.94 after this semester because I might get a B in calc - I am at a community college.</p>

<p>8.) Extra: List anything that you think benefit you in the admissions process (legacy, recruited athlete, minority status, hard couse load, etc.)
Minority status in sciences, hard course load, 2 research projects and papers to be published, board of trustees, presented paper at conference for grad students, someone who donates to cornell and is the CEO of the company i work for can write me a recommendation, might get another recommendation from the president of a small african country, work 30 hours a week, financially independent.</p>

<p>For P Reepa
It sounds like everything is a good match and even some are safeties except cornell might be a lowe reach. Good for you for holding on to your 4.0!</p>

<p>What is BHP?</p>

<p>Harvard - high reach...(its a reach for everyone, and your ECs arnt that great, and those are what get you in over the other 4.0s)
Yale - reach (see harvard)
Cornell - low reach (get that recommendation from the cornell guy)
UPenn - high reach (its an ivy, and they tend to look more at ECs from what ive heard)
Georgetown - match
Johns Hopkins - reach
Rice- not sure
Washington University in St. Louis - not sure
University of Maryland at Baltimore County - match/in</p>

<p>here's mine
1) Schools - UVa (in state), UT-Austin (oos) (both for Engineering)
2) HS - NoVa (fairfax county) school, nationally ranked public school
3) SATs - 1350 SAT
SAT IIs were around 680 (math 1, math 2, us history)
4) HS GPA - 3.6
5) Rank - school doesnt rank, but maybe top 20%?
6) ECs - very good
7) 3.5 - applying as second year
8) Extra: female, at Virginia Tech Engineering, strong high school ECs/leadership, Girl Scout Gold Award (equiv of Eagle Scout), good recs from current advisor and professor, and good recs from HS counseler and teacher, first-generation, tough courseloads, 8 high school APs, on chair posistions for Society of Women Engineers</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply. </p>

<p>You are definitely right about my chances about getting into H or Y but I am just applying to see you know? </p>

<p>You dont like my ECs, why? Below is the complete list, what should i be doing to improve upon this list? </p>

<p>I definitely think you are right about ivies and ECs that is why I tried to do the most I could at my CC. </p>

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<li>two papers published in peer-reviewed journals (in biological sciences, my major)</li>
<li>appointed by the governor of the state to my CC college's board of trustees (one student from the whole college)</li>
<li>presented research at graduate level conferences (for MD/PhDs, PhDs and PhD candidates)</li>
<li> recommendation from first female president in africa (and harvard alum)</li>
<li> research project abroad interviewing Roma (gypsies) in Germany, Switzerland and France for another research paper in assimilation and majority-minority studies sponsored by the UN</li>
<li>Internship at NIH </li>
<li>7 APS (all 5s except 1)</li>
<li>Deans list (since high school when i got here)</li>
<li>Started at this CC since the beginning of my senior year in high school (dual enrollment)</li>
<li>Numerous national and regional awards in French and overall scholarship</li>
<li>Recipient of Coca cola 2 yr scholarship</li>
<li> VP of Phi Theta Kappa</li>
<li>Lots of community service</li>
<li> passionate about art: intern at gallery and obsessive photography hobby (and have a portfolio to show too)</li>
<li>underrepresented minority in the biomedical sciences</li>
<li>rec from ceo who is cornell alum and donates</li>
</ul>

<p>Good luck to you in your applications! Im sure you will get into UVA (good fit/in) especially because you are instate and they have a pretty high transfer rate. I can't say that much about UT though.</p>

<p>Im not trying to hijack this thread tho so if anyone has suggestions or comments you could also PM me.</p>

<p>shoebox -</p>

<p>it's good that you give your opinion, but sometimes your chances for others don't make much sense. for instance, you called harvard and penn high reaches for vcoleman and yale merely a reach. the order, from worst to best chances, is:</p>

<p>high reach
reach
low reach
high match
match
low match
safety</p>

<p>yale, with a 3% transfer acceptance rate, is considerably harder to get into than harvard (8%) or penn (~12%?). just wanted to point that out.</p>

<p>Vcoleman:</p>

<p>I'm going to get on my soapbox (again) for just a minute: as I've said many times, I strongly recommend that students at CCs (like myself) take the SAT/ACT and put a lot of effort into it. Coming from a CC, you are always going to have to prove yourself academically. You are being compared to many applicants with similar GPAs from reputable, 4-year universities. As there are definitely "easy" CCs out there, the burden is on the CC student to prove himself capable of the work at a top university. You've got a 4.0 at a CC? Big deal. Me too...and I know several others at my CC that do as well. I don't mean to sound condescending about it, as it is very impressive to maintain a perfect GPA, but if you're going for ivies and other top universities, your competition will be students with similar GPAs applying from the best universities, often with excellent test scores. You want to do everything you can to differentiate yourself from the masses of applicants. A kick-ass test score is something even 4.0 CC students (and 4.0 4-year students) often won't have, so it will definitely set you apart. My point: study hard! They are important. </p>

<p>There are obviously some that will say SAT/ACT scores don't count much in transfer decisions, especially for juniors. For those coming from a good 4-year university, I would agree. For those coming from a CC, I still think test scores are incredibly important as they can often be the "proof" of your GPA's reflection of your intelligence.</p>

<p>In my opinion:</p>

<p>** Vcoleman's chances **</p>

<p>Much of this really depends on whether you're applying for sophomore or junior status. I didn't see you specify, so I'm going to assume you're applying for junior status. You have very good ECs. Much of this is dependent on your test scores. I'm going to assume you'll get around a 2100 (which would be competitive):</p>

<p>Harvard: reach
Yale: high reach
Cornell: high match
Penn: low reach:
Georgetown: high match
JHU: low reach
Rice: high match
WUSTL: high match
Balt: safety / low match</p>

<p>*shoebox's chances *</p>

<p>As an engineering major, your 3.5 will be pretty good. I think you're in at UVA and most likely in at UT, but UT will be the harder of your options since you are OOS and UT isn't very nice to OOS applicants.</p>

<p>who applies to yale? That school is horrible....</p>

<p>oh no you didn't</p>

<p>well, yale i was actually borderline on saying reach or high reach...
why?
not to put him down, i respect him for going to a CC, but there are students trying to transfer into harvard, yale, penn, ect, from schools like NYU, UChicago, ect (schools that are GREAT, but not ivies...those are just examples)...ivies are going to be reaches for CCs, even with 4.0s
with that, i had harvard and penn as high reaches because harvard is a TOP NOTCH school, ranked #2 currently, so its going to be a reach no matter what for anyone...as for penn, they seem to be more focused on ECs, and although his are impressive, there is definently better
yale got a reach, simply because im pretty sure they have higher transfer rate than most ivies (i may be wrong on this however, it may be cornell im thinking of...in this case, yale will be a high reach)
JHU got a reach because i'm not sure his intended major...so i guessed biology type, and JHU is really competative for their medical program (its a great program, and their hospital is incredible, as i live about 2 hours from baltimore and have had family members and family friends treated there)</p>

<p>honestly, i think ivies are tough as anything to predict...anyone can have a 4.0, anyone can go to a CC or a 4-year...its all about how he presents himself, and i think with the right determination, he can...frankly, with his grades, i would suggest applying to places that are top50 schools, but not ivies...you dont have to go to an ivy to get an ivy-type education, and he could do well anywhere
also, his missing SATs make this even harder</p>