what are my chances of getting into an ivy league school? especially yale

Colleges and Universities A-Z Yale University
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<p>these are my statistics:</p>

<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): Sitting 1: CR=690, M=780, W=780 (E=10)
Sitting 2: CR=750, M=740, W=670 (E=11)
Superscore: CR=750, M=780, W=780 (2320)
ACT: none
SAT II:
Freshman yr: 690 Bio M
Soph yr: 740 chem, 740 world history
Junior yr: 800 Math II, 800 USH, 780 Bio M
Unweighted GPA: 95.8
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): top 3%; I go to a very competitive specialized high school in NY (bronx science)
AP (place score in parenthesis): world history (5)
also took English Composition, Biology, and US History this year
IB (place score in parenthesis): none
Senior Year Course Load: AP spanish, AP Comparative Government, AP Chem, AP Calculus AB, AP Lit, Post-AP Biology, Math and Bio Research
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Gold Medal at a Math fair, possible Intel semi-finalist</p>

<p>Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Bio Journal (Editor), Lector and Alter Server at local church, Volunteer at Learn to Swim Program the last 6 years, Debate Team (1 yr)
Job/Work Experience: Intern at Memorial Sloan-Kettering the last 2 years.
Summer Activities: Internship, researching for intel project
Essays: working with a professional
Teacher Recommendation: English--should be very good
Bio Research--also has potential
Counselor Rec: I think it will be good.
Additional Rec: Probably from my Msgr in the church or my Intel Mentor</p>

<p>State (if domestic applicant): NY
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Large Public (~5800 students
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: 100-120k+, no FA is all i know really
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): First generation college (none of my parents went to school, they are immigrants to this country)</p>

<p>Please help me with
Reflection
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Possible Schools I may get into and why:</p>

<p>I am currently a junior who will likely apply EA to Yale next year.</p>

<p>THANK YOU!!</p>

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<p>Wow. Your stats are amazing. I posted a similar thread regarding my chances for Dartmouth, and now I feel SUPER incompetent. I didn’t find ANY weakness. The only thing that you might need a little bit of improvement on is your EC’s. I think Ivy League schools want amazing EC’s, besides stellar grades and test scores, both of which you have. If you actually become an intel award semi-finalist, you have a VERY good chance of getting into Yale. Scratch that. You’ll get into Yale for sure. :)</p>

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<p>I’d say your chances are about 8.3%…</p>

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<p>Jtnshieh: NO ONE will get into Yale “for sure.” OP is probably a competitive candiate, beyond that…OP, good luck.</p>

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Actually for SCEA it would be 15.68% and 5.27% for RD. Overall rate for 2016 was 6.82%.;)</p>

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<p>^ I’ll spot him the extra 1.5% being in the top 3% of his class at Bronx Science. You are clearly a credible applicant. All you can control at this point is your essays and perhaps thoughtful selection for your LOR’s. First generation status may help and assuming typical assets, an income bracket of under $150K will get you some financial aid at Yale. You should clarify with your parents that they would pay for you to go if you receive no financial aid since if they make considerably more than your estimate but are unwilling to foot the bill, then it is a waste of time to get into a school you cannot afford. Your stats will get you a nice merit financial aid package elsewhere but not at the Ivy’s.</p>

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<p>thank you everyone!</p>

<p>Does intel really count that much in admission? if i were to apply EA, would that be counted in time?</p>

<p>and paying is not a problem. i would pay around 10% which would be around 10k</p>

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Actually you would be cutting the OP’s chances in half as they mentioned applying SCEA. ;)</p>

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<p>Early Action is filled with the top applicants and athletes, it is self selective. SCEA chances = RD chances. Many, many students are deferred in SCEA too, and these students should be rejected and not added to the RD pool.</p>

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I hear this all the time and I don’t buy it. 15% is 15% no matter how many applicants or how strong they are. Your chances will in almost ALL cases be better applying EA. Georgetown was the only exception this year from my recollection as their RD rate was higher than EA.</p>

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<p>I knew an Intel top 40 finalist (generally extremely well-qualified) who did not get into at least one of HYP (don’t know if they applied to all 3). Also know of an Intel top 10 finalist who received a likely letter from H shortly after notifying them of this status. Apparently top 40 wasn’t good enough for a likely letter! So, I doubt that being one of 300 semifinalists will guarantee you a spot at a top Ivy. Also the results aren’t back in time for SCEA. It just comes back to the fact that Ivy admissions are a crapshhoot.</p>

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<p>I have to respectfully disagree with this. As I have said many times before, the purpose of EA is to grab outstanding candidates who are likely to later be accepted to other peer schools RD if they choose to apply. This gives the EA school extra time to convince the applicant to matriculate.</p>

<p>There is no benefit to an EA school to select qualified but not exceptional candidates, these are the large number of students deferred to the RD round where they can then be compared within the larger pool of candidates.</p>

<p>Of course none of us has insider information, but that’s my argument for why EA does not afford a ‘better chance’ for applicants who aren’t in the ‘highly desirable’ category.</p>

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Then I guess we have to agree to disagree. If a school wants a student (EA or RD) there is no reason to defer them when they COULD choose another school during RD. IMHO, applying EA (especially SCEA), shows the school that the applicant is committed to attend that school and not their second or third choice. Of course, if you have inside information from admissions that tells me otherwise, I might change my mind. ;)</p>

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<p>The Dean of Admissions has been oft quoted saying that nobody gets accepted SCEA who would not be accepted in the RD round. There would be no advantage getting the head start recruiting a student by accepting them SCEA unless you felt they were so strong that they would be entertaining peer institution acceptances. Admissions has always said that the different acceptance rates SCEA vs RD is based on a differing applicant pool. That is about as much “inside information” from admissions as we are likely to hear.</p>

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<p>Once again, my (in)famous link that YGD refers to:</p>

<p>[Early</a> admit rate rises slightly | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2009/dec/15/early-admit-rate-rises-slightly/]Early”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2009/dec/15/early-admit-rate-rises-slightly/)</p>

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<p>^I have read that before too! Seeing as how I was a SCEA applicant to Yale. :smiley: I was deferred and then rejected. Thanks for backing me up guys!</p>

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<p>Excerpt from a NYT article in 2010.</p>

<p>A report released Wednesday by an association of guidance counselors and admissions officers could be worth a look. It provides new evidence for those who believe that applying to college early in the academic year — or, more specifically, submitting applications under binding early-decision programs — increases the likelihood of acceptance.</p>

<p>Nearly three of every four students who applied last year under such programs, which are offered by many of the nation’s most selective colleges, were accepted, compared with just over half who applied to the same colleges in the main application round, according to the annual report, “The State of College Admission,” by the National Association for College Admission Counseling.</p>

<p>All told, the percentage accepted last year in the early-decision round, in which those accepted are compelled to withdraw all other applications and enroll, was 15 points higher than in the main phase. And that gap is rising, the authors said. In fall 2006, 61 percent, on average, were accepted early, compared with 53 percent in the regular pool. </p>

<p><a href=“Early-Decision Programs May Lift Odds of College Admission - The New York Times”>Early-Decision Programs May Lift Odds of College Admission - The New York Times;

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<p>OP, you have a great profile! That being said, why did you post this on every Ivy League forum? ALL of those schools are different and have different vibes, strengths and weaknesses. I would recommend that you do research on them and see which will be a good school for you. Applying to ALL of them makes you seem as you are a prestige whore and not looking and applying to schools that will be right for you, and instead just wanting the “Ivy” name.</p>

<p>Why are you applying to them all? Is it your wishes, or perhaps those of your parents?</p>

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<p>Kdog,</p>

<p>While the title of that article says “Early Action”, the body of the article, including what you have cited, is all about ED.</p>

<p>No one here is talking about ED, and EA is significantly different from ED, both from the school’s and the applicant’s POV.</p>

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<p>entomom@, I still do not believe that your chances are equal in EA and RD. First, there is a smaller number of applicants (regardless if the schools defend the higher acceptance rate on the higher caliber of applicants) so you are competing with less applicants for a greater number of openings. With RD you are now competing with a greater number of applicants for the fewer remaining slots. Second, even if deferred, your application is given a second look during RD so there is a chance that something will catch their eye that did not in EA. I am not saying your chances are astronomically better but I do not buy that they are equal.</p>

<p>@PAGRok, you just proved my point by saying you were deferred and then rejected since you had two chances of getting in. ;)</p>