what are the less difficult musical theater programs to get into

I agree with the idea that most BFAs are full of kids who did well casting wise in high school. I also think casting as a kid/teen is not a great predictor of future success. Mostly because youth theater shows require many of the kids to play roles that they will not play until they are in their 30s or older (often based on type/looks/height) so the casting for these shows does not accurately reflect how those kids will be cast when they are in the 18 and up world.

What schools and what to you suspect that reason to be? Iā€™m curious. I donā€™t see that the diva attitude is pervasive in these kids despite their success in casting. Iā€™m not sure any program would want to work with a bunch of attitude.

I couldnā€™t name specific schools as I only have limited and anecdotal evidence from kids I have known who have auditioned for bfa programs, some divas, some super talented, and some just normal. besides- I would be certain to offend someone if I even hazarded a guess. (Though I have my own thoughts on the subject) But if the logic from the earlier post about type 1,2,3,4,5 (which made a lot of interesting points) would it be such a stretch to imagine there were schools who were more attracted to kids who had a lot of talent, and a lot of attitude. Would there be schools who would recognize that that type of kid might have the skills for a top tier program- but not an attitude that would attract that type of school, and really pour on the love to try to hook that kid? And. Wouldnā€™t that be attractive to a kid used to constant praise? I have NO idea if it happens, but It doesnā€™t seem inconceivable to me

You can take this with a grain of salt, but it is part of how CCPA positions itself that it does not want or tolerate divas. Itā€™s partly a Chicago thing. Theater in general is less star-oriented and more collaborative than in NYC. (It may also be because they are not getting a shot at the top tier divas who end up at better known schools, IDK.) Anyway, they really like nice kids there.

I am sure you are correct - and I think there are schools who look for that sort of thing as well. (And in my opinion are better for it) I donā€™t think most people would disagree with the notion that lots of schools have ā€œtypesā€. My favorite description of types is in the annoyingactorfriend book :slight_smile:

Iā€™m not quite sure, however, how in a five minute audition, a program can really ascertain the studentā€™s attitude.

I think itā€™s probably pretty evident in at least some cases.

@soozievt, two years ago, MANY of the schools (all?) watched kids closely during auditions, from the time they walked into the building until they left. Some of the improv sessions/group warm ups, etc. are really ways they could see the kids interact with each other. Door monitors report backā€¦I heard one story (I am not going to publicly name the school, although I LOVE that they did this, actually, and it was told to me by an audition panel member who was in the room) where an auditioner came out of the vocal audition,and said, ā€œI so nailed that,ā€ in a VERY cocky manner, and bragged to those waiting how well she did. The door monitor went into the audition room, told the audition panel, and they removed her from the ā€œyesā€ pile to the ā€œnoā€ pile. I have heard of faculty asking existing students about younger students applying that they know (either from their home towns, community theater, or camp). I have seen cocky students bragging about all the Broadway auditions they have had during stretching before the dance call. There are monitors out there. People everywhere. There are so very many ways to ascertain a studentā€™s attitude.

As far as listing the schools that donā€™t mind these kids, Iā€™m not going to do it, either. But they are out there.

I know for sure CMU does that. A friend is a junior there and forewarned D about the process. The student helpers are asked for a report on every kid in their group.

You make good pointsā€¦though my understanding of Michigan is that last year they had prescreens of over 1200 studentsā€¦ allegedly, through the rumor mill, they only passed 200 girls and 100 boys to live audition. So their numbers are rather high as well. I do not know if Emerson accepted a larger pool to get those 19. I believe they offered a few more than the 16 they wanted and ended up with 19 who accepted. !0 boys in class, 9 girls. It does have less than a 1 to 2 percent acceptance rate. Last year audition classes across the board we were told were more applicants than everā€¦ in almost all schools.That is why I am very glad my son is happily esconced in Boston in snow than auditioning next week at LA unifieds;)