<p>For all you guys out there, I saw this on Netscape.com and thought of this thread. So here is what a girl wants in a guy:</p>
<p>Women Say THIS Is the Ideal Man
Women want their men to be manly men! Yes, real men are back--at least in the hearts and desires of real women. In an online survey, The Harris Poll and Dodge Dakota asked 2,131 U.S. adults aged 18 and over, of whom 1,003 were men and 1,128 were women, to describe the ideal man. The answers may surprise and excite you. The ideal man should be dependable instead of fashionable. He spends more time on the house than he does on himself. And he knows how to laugh. </p>
<p>The age-old question is finally answered! What women REALLY want is... </p>
<p>What are the ideal man's characteristics?
--92 percent of women want their man to be dependable--someone they can count on.
--90 percent of women say their ideal man is low-maintenance and easy-going.
--88 percent want a man who will make them laugh. </p>
<p>How should men spend their free time?
--72 percent say they want a guy who enjoys spending his free time doing jobs around the house. In other words, he should spend his time hanging a mirror instead of standing in front of one.
--41 percent say their ideal is a sports fan.
--10 percent want a guy who spends his precious free time shopping for designer clothes.
--Only 9 percent are ISO a man who spends free time with a personal trainer. </p>
<p>Other oddities:
--75 percent of women say the ideal man does not buy his shampoo in a salon. No, no, no. He gets it in the same store as he buys milk and eggs.
--61 percent want a man with rough, hard-working hands instead of hands that are soft and manicured.
--47 percent say their ideal man spends his money on electrical gadgets instead of cosmetics. </p>
<p>Bottom line: Women want a man who works hard, plays hard, and is strong and capable. He should be confident and energetic. He needs to have a good sense of humor--both to be able to make others laugh and to even laugh at his own foibles on occasion.</p>
<p>Interesting, but I don't think that's an accurate survey since the only choice seems to have been between a stereotypical 'manly' guy and an equally stereotypical more metrosexual guy. Personally, I'd probably have chosen the manly guy--but only as the lesser of two evils. A man who spends his time getting manicures and admiring his reflection is even less attractive to me than a rough, stereotypically masculine 'caretaker', but that's not to say I'd marry either.</p>
<p>In the teen ages girls are all after the "HOT" man. Its more about how sexy a guy is that about personality. As they grow older and mature they start to search beyond the looks.</p>
<p>Btw, I'm a guy...so at best this is an educated guess :) Girls help out!</p>
<p>I think the previous post in this thread shows what I was talking about. Girls say they don't want looks, but I would bet you that if a girl has an internal list of 7 important personality criteria, she would take a hot guy with 1 or 2 of them before a not-so-hot guy with all 7.</p>
<p>I'd be a hypocrite to say that looks don't make a difference--but then again, so would you be. I'd pick an average guy over a hot one if everything else aligned; in that sense, looks aren't everything. It seems that many of the guys who post in this thread, including the last two posters, have set out to prove that girls are shallow by forcing us to admit it. Looks are always going to play a part, because let's face it, physical attraction is what separates a friendship from a romance--but we're not any more shallow than you are. Besides which, looks are subjective, and a guy I think is hot won't necessarily be attractive to another girl. </p>
<p>Maybe we should reverse the inquiry--would you go out with a hot girl with some, but not all of your other criteria, or an ugly one with all of them?</p>
<p>It's not as if people ever judge potential lovers by a list of set criteria, anyway.</p>
<p>yeah you don't see many hot guys with geeky girls. but i've seen plenty of hot guys with ugly girls - ugly as in trashy/full-on makeup/horrendous skanky fashion/a bit of flab poking out of that tight miniskirt.</p>
<p>the outfit of a loser ugly try-hard girl with a hot shallow guy: miniskirt & uggboots & tight black/white/pink bombard jacket & a bit pudgy & blond highlights on brown hair.
^ UGLY AND TRASHY. NO SENSE OF STYLE.
nearly all loser, wanabe girls have that outfit in their closets.
I'm sorry to be making such a big deal out of this outfit but it's UGLY!!!! everytime I see some girl who wears that, I throw something at the girl if i'm driving.</p>
<p>If looks were all that mattered, then how would an ass-ugly rock star like Mick Jagger be considered sex god? I guess there are many things that can compensate for all cases of ugliness.</p>
<p>To be semi-serious again, Im beginning to think a lot of the problem being discussed here now has more to do with the temporary artifice of the typical high school social pecking order than it does with actual hotness, etc. Like it or not, it exists in most places and I think some of the frustration being shown by some of the guys has more to do with their own shallowness than anything else. No If youre part of the typical high school intelligentsia (i.e. nerds, gamers, etc.) like I suspect most of the guys here are, youre probably not going to have much of a chance with the popular hot chick in the top clique. Believe you me, she has problems of her own. If she's not a total sociopathic narcissist and would be worth messing with to begin with under other circumstances, shes probably already sworn off the silliness that is high school dating in favor of the silliness that is dating older guys. Itd probably be better if youd just forget about her and start paying attention to the large number of other sweet, smart, and perpetually dateless girls youre probably overlooking. Depending on where you go to school, a lot of this will supposedly even out in college and even more so in the real world.</p>
<p>I still have to agree with taffyluchia. Certain characteristics that you once have thought were undesirable begin to grow on you and become more attractive once you realize you really love the person. It's more of a domino effect; once one characteristic completely captures your attention, everything else falls into place because you will tend to idealize the person.</p>
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I've always preferred nice guys, but sometimes it's hard to seperate who's genuinely nice and who isn't. thisyearsgirl makes a very good point about that
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<p>I know this was posted quite a bit earlier, but I could not help commenting. If you're having a tough time knowing which guys are truly nice and which guys are not, ask a male friend. We guys can EASILY tell which of us are genuinely nice and which are dirtbags, just as the girls can tell which of them are genuinely kind and which are manipulative (I can't tell the difference).</p>
<p>"If you're having a tough time knowing which guys are truly nice and which guys are not, ask a male friend. We guys can EASILY tell which of us are genuinely nice and which are dirtbags, just as the girls can tell which of them are genuinely kind and which are manipulative (I can't tell the difference)."</p>
<p>RIGHT ON. Guys can always spot the bad ones 100 miles away but can't tell if a girl is manipulative and will cheat on him... but his girl friends all know within a half-second of meeting her. :)</p>
I'd be a hypocrite to say that looks don't make a difference--but then again, so would you be. I'd pick an average guy over a hot one if everything else aligned; in that sense, looks aren't everything. It seems that many of the guys who post in this thread, including the last two posters, have set out to prove that girls are shallow by forcing us to admit it.
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<p>Basically, yeah. Because girls never admit it. Guys are always "so shallow", but all of you are as shallow as well are, you're just not vocal about it.</p>
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Maybe we should reverse the inquiry--would you go out with a hot girl with some, but not all of your other criteria, or an ugly one with all of them?
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<p>I'd go out with the ugly girl will all of them.</p>
<p>You're jumping to conclusions when you say that all girls think that all guys are shallow. I never said such a thing. I freely admit to being conscious of appearance, because as I said,
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...but physical attraction is a very general term, and I don't care about six-packs or seductive smiles or dark, inquisitive eyes. For me to be physically attracted to a guy, the only real prerequisites are (1) personal hygiene and (2) a certain level of physical fitness (but I don't need anything extreme!)--besides that, anything goes, but I want a guy to look healthy and self-respecting. Is that so shallow of me?</p>
<p>Thisyearsgirl: That is not shallow at all, I would think that all people both male and female think this way. </p>
<p>Nobody can say that they would date someone who didn't have a good sense of personal hygiene (i.e. brushing teeth, smelling good, or just taking care of one's self)</p>
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<li>In good health (clean, physically fit)</li>
<li>Witty, smart, universal (carry on a good conversation)</li>
<li>Understanding, respecting (talk about anything, will listen)</li>
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