<p>ok
there are two people applying to the SAME college
and they both have the SAME exact STATS
same SATs, GPA, extracurriculars...etc
but the ONE thing they differed in is: when they applied... on the application person A checked off that ENGLISH IS NOT HIS NATIVE LANGUAGE.....
now who has a better chance at getting into that college
person A or person B?</p>
<p>Well...this is a purely hypothetical case, but assuming all things being equal (unlikely), I would think that most schools would give the nod to the bi-lingual person.</p>
<p>I'm usually just a lurker on the Parents Forum, but I will break my personal rule for this occasion since I know what you're talking about and that you've private messaged me about this many times.</p>
<p>DON'T LIE ON YOUR APPLICATION AND REFUSE TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE YOU MADE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU THINK IT WILL HELP YOU GET IN SOMEWHERE. Call the school. Tell them you messed up on your application. They will fix it and it will be no big deal. DO NOT leave the mistake because you think it was convenient and will aid you in admission. </p>
<p>Now who has a better chance at getting into that college: The one that lies? The one that doesn't?</p>
<p>correct it! they will admire your honesty</p>
<p>AHAHAHAA...what is this, like your fifth separate thread about the SAME problem? </p>
<p>Man, you just got OWNED</p>
<p>well said lindsey, well said</p>
<p>lindseylujh, i never said any of them lied
im just asking hypothetically
person A is telling the truth and person B is telling the truth
now who has a better chance of getting accepted?
thats all
thanks</p>
<p>i think the non-bilingual person will...personally</p>
<p>Not sure what the deal is here - but if you lied about app, that's obviously unethical. Why would you do such a thing? I don't think it's going to give you that big of an edge in the admissions process - they'll figure if your scores and grades are very good that you were fortunate to be in a bi-lingual home or came to the US early or went to an English-speaking school - it's not that unusual - and probably has more to do with luck than ability. They're not going to think your Einstein because English isn't your first language and you got good scores.</p>
<p>no one lied!</p>
<p>You started about five threads yesterday about what to do because you accidentally checked off that you were not a native English speaker. You said that you WERE a native English speaker. Therefore you lied. Just fix your mistake and stop worrying about the "edge" that you gained through your carelessness.</p>
<p>let me clarify
it was NOT a mistake really...
i learned english when i was 4
its just that now everyone is telling me that it is a bad idea to say that englishis not ur native language
so i wanted to change it and say that english is my native language
ok</p>
<p>You are misguided.</p>
<p>Most of the time it is not going to make a bit of difference. The way admissions is done, applications are not put side by side and then accepted or not accepted on a given point. The answer to the question of whether English is your second language comes into play with other factors that may surface in other parts of your application. </p>
<p>Questions that have answers that are not easily verifiable do not have a huge impact in admissions. What really can have an impact over your basic stats are "hook" factors that put you into athletic recruit, legacy, celebrity, URM categories. Padding your app with insignificant things is not a smart thing to do because odd coincidences do happen a lot in life and the college world is a heck of a lot smaller than many of you would think. I've thought about writing a book about these type of coincidences; I know of enough incidents to fill one.</p>
<p>jamimom, sorry can u explain that into a more understandable way?
sorry... i dont get it
thanks</p>
<p>Don't choose what's going to help you most in admissions. Just answer the question HONESTLY, no matter what the answer may be.</p>
<p>but if i put thats its not my native language im gonna have to do toefl and stuff
thats annoying...</p>
<p>Janimom,
I'd love to hear more about the coincidences you've run into.
The coincidence that I ran into was seeing a student post on CC and then getting to interview the student in person when I interviewed for my alma mater. To my knowledge, the student never realized they'd initially met me here.</p>
<p>I also saw the same student get banned here for a string of vulgar posts.No, the student was not admitted to my college.</p>
<p>My answer is that merely checking off the space that English is not your native language is not going to impact your application.</p>
<p>Sexy123,
You've posted so much info about yourself on these boards including your scores and your Iranian American/NY State heritage that the adcoms at SUNY Binghamton probably can figure out who you are and that you lied on your app. </p>
<p>I strongly suggest that you fix the error instead of hoping that the misrepresentation will give you some kind of an edge. Your 620 V is not impressive whether or not you are a native speaker. I have seen nonnative speakers who have gotten scores as high as 750V even though they started learning English in late middle school. </p>
<p>Getting caught in a lie is impressive and could lead to your being rejected for admission or having an admission rescinded. Adcoms aren't stupid. They also value ethics and lurk on message boards.</p>