What do you think of these schools?

<p>My counselor at school recommended these colleges for me...I'm not quite so sure about them, so any feedback would be helpful. Which ones can I consider safeties? matches? reaches? </p>

<p>My Stats : <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/702564-advice-needed-looking-safety-match-schools.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/702564-advice-needed-looking-safety-match-schools.html&lt;/a>
(As you can see, I need some advice)</p>

<p>Majors: Business, Hospitality Administration, or Econ (prob not though)
State: Oregon</p>

<p>U of Denver
Emory University
U of Mass. Amherst
U of Richmond
Santa Clara University
Skidmore College
Syracuse University
U of Washington
College of William and Mary
Wake Forest
U of Vermont
Union College
Case Western Reserve
U of Rochester
Vanderbilt
Indiana U
Tulane
Lehigh
Elon
Loyola Marymount U.</p>

<p>What do you think?
THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>anyone? I really am not sure about these schools!</p>

<p>This should really being in the “What Are My chances” forum…</p>

<p>Vanderbilt and Emory would be reaches…try improving your SAT scores.
Wake Forest, most likely a match.
I’ve heard that Univ. of Denver has a great program, and that would most likely be a match.
Good luck! :)</p>

<p>With the current economic situation being what it is you are surely a candidate for any of your schools. You bring with you geographic diversity which they all look for. Even though most schools used to claim they were need blind, times have changed. Not requiring any financial aid from these schools easily adds over 100 points to your test scores.</p>

<p>I don’t see you having too much trouble. UVA’s business school might be a stretch. For Lehigh as a “safety” you might want a high math score on the SAT, but your scores are good (take a class in taking the test, ugh Kaplan or the like, your scores will soar). You might add a little about what you want in lifestyle since you’ll probably get in to the schools you’re looking at. If you shoot for UVA you might also want to move to Virginia first, and apply later. Out of state costs are very high, so if you have the option of becoming a resident before you apply, you could save some serious money.</p>

<p>Thanks for the advice! I really appreciate it. This is my current match/safety list, since I would love to go to Cornell/Upenn/NYU,but I know those are all reaches with my SAT scores… :frowning: </p>

<p>If you could choose two of these schools as matches for business and two for safeties (admissions and financially), which ones would you choose?<br>
U of Oregon and Oregon State are also options, but I really want to explore somewhere new and not end up where practically everyone goes in Oregon! :)</p>

<p>I am trying to narrow the list.</p>

<p>Lou Costello - as for lifestyle, I am pretty open. I am good with anywhere from 2,000 to 25,000 students. Urban and rural campuses are fine. I think I am a little partial to the traditional campus, but I loved NYU (which is very untraditional!!!). I like a school with fun, spirit, and pride, but also competitive. I am not a big fan of parties, but who knows once I get there! I guess I am trying to see what other people think of these schools in general to help me narrow my choices down. Thanks for the help! </p>

<p>P.S. That was my first time taking the SAT - I tried to prep but never took a full length practice test, so I was not focused. I am planning on taking ACT in September (we’ll see how that works out) and the SAT again in October. I am hoping for at least a 2150. Do you think this is a reachable goal for my scores? 2200? </p>

<p>Sorry for the rant-like post. I’m just having trouble looking past my three top schools because I love them so much. I just look at their forums/websites and don’t pay attention to other colleges. Which colleges would you cut off the list? THANKS!</p>

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<p>you’re in at university of denver. you’ll probably qualify for a scholarship based on those stats.</p>

<p>Test scores are like resumes, they mean very little about the actual person’s skills, but you need good ones just to get past the gate keepers. Turn the game around. Study, pay the bucks for a class a book, whatever and then blaze the test. If the fools judge first on test scores, then have a great test score. As to reachable goals, that’s up to you, I can’t judge. I can only tell you my experience on a set of exams was:</p>

<p>Without studying - All scores in 50% percentile
With studying (Kaplan, way too expensive) - 98% percentile. </p>

<p>The difference made getting into the school of my choice a joke. It was obvious from the college responses that while they do ignore scores when you’re a part of the mix (say 75 - 85%), if you blow the test away, they take their brains out and just stamp you accepted. So use it against them if you can.</p>

<p>My lifestyle point was simple - you’re gonna live there for four years. If you like the place, the people and surroundings then life will be so much easier, and it’s part of the experience. </p>

<p>UVA is a great place, lots of school activities, and a beautiful campus. The place likes politics (near DC). The students are, lets put this nicely, pompous. It’s built into the system. You wear ties to football games for example. The campus is big and wealthy, steeped in Jeffersonian history and damn, damn, damn proud of it. Virginia and the school are politically conservative but allow the liberals to live amongst them. It’s not highly diversified though it says it is.</p>

<p>Lehigh’s campus is small, tight and also beautiful. Old ivy covered stone buildings mixed with modern high tech. It’s built into the side of a mountain and you will get great legs going down from your dorm to classes and back up again. When it gets cold, it’s cold and when it snows, it really snows. The students are competitive (should be capitalized but I don’t want to shout), and it is a school of proud geeks, so not the best for social interaction. It had a reputation as a party school, but it’s nothing like it use to be. Lehigh is not as political as UVA because they all agree with each other. They define conservative (the professor supporting Intelligent Design over evolution at the recent Dover high court case was from Lehigh, a Biology professor if you can believe it). Diversity at Lehigh is easily found because it resides in only one place, a dictionary at the main library. </p>

<p>Both campuses suffer from island syndrome. The upside, just about everything that happens in the area, happens at the campus. The downside, get off the campus and nothing happens. Lehigh is worse in this regard, since the school is nestled in the city of Bethlehem, next to Nazareth, and Jerusalem. While the distant from UVA to the next major city is greater.</p>

<p>So this is why I asked the question about lifestyle. Consider what four years at Boston, New York or LA would be like in comparison. These four years are incredibly formative, so take a moment and think about the type of people you want to be with, what you want to do on weekends. Both the schools I listed are great places, and you will get a fantastic education at either, but what else do you want?</p>

<p>Emory, Vanderbilt, William & Mary are the top of that list. They are the toughest to get into of the bunch.</p>

<p>Lou Costello - Thank you so much! Lehigh and UVA both sound like very interesting schools. I understand your emphasis on lifestyle. When I visited Cornell, UPenn and NYU this past spring break, I could see myself at all three of those schools. It seems kind of strange, because all three are quite different. I think Lehigh probably sounds like a better fit for me, just because it has that competitive nature and is less pompous then UVA or some of the other schools. Thanks again.
doctorb - thanks! Do you think I have a shot at them?</p>

<p>i know someone who has stats that similar to yours, and got into william and mary, lehigh, and, wake forest. his stats are a little bit higher though, but you are comparable. i never saw the others but lehigh is great. i like the campus… it is on a mountain with old ivy-looking buildings. it is so pretty when it so snows. there is an extreme lack of diversity… i don’t know if that bothers you or not. but other than that, it is a really great school with a good reputation. i would say lehigh is a match</p>

<p>Thanks! I am still unsure about Lehigh…I have done some more research and I’m not so sure I want an uber conservative school…we will see…hopefully I will get into my dream schools and I won’t have to worry :slight_smile:
Any more advice on the best safety on the list would be appreciated!</p>

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<p>Is it sad that I figured which high school you go to?</p>

<p>On topic, I can understand your desire to get out of Oregon. I was, reluctantly, forced to use Oregon State as my safety, and I didn’t really want to go because everyone from my school goes there (although I’m rather surprised its the same for a private Catholic school, and especially yours). With that said, if you can afford it, you should get into BU minimally. Someone from my school with a weaker GPA got in, and I believe their test scores were weaker as well. That same person also was accepted at Rochester (and in the February round of acceptance letters), so your chances are probably good there. Are you retaking the SAT/ACT, and are you taking subject tests. I think they are required for UPenn, and for Ivy League admissions in general, they are a good idea. If you can get your SAT to 2100 or 2150 and get subject tests from 680+ (and preferably 700+) you will have improved your admissions chances at the Ivy reach schools significantly.</p>

<p>As a note, you should be guaranteed admission (effectively) at all these schools except Emory, Wake Forest, William and Mary, Skidmore (dependent on your financial need), Vanderbilt, and possibly Case Western. If we knew your race, it would be easier to judge as well. Cornell and UPenn become less of reaches if you are Hispanic or African-American.</p>

<p>^ha ha! can you PM the name and how you knew? I’m just curious…</p>

<p>Although lots of people don’t go to OSU or U of O, I went to a public middle school so I would know quite a few of the kids from there…plus, I think I need a new experience. I am taking the ACT for the first time in September, then retaking the SAT in October (shooting for a 2100 to 2200). It took Chem, Math2, and USH in June and I am awaiting results…BTW I am white. I am hoping Wake Forest will be good because they don’t have test scores…but we’ll see. Thanks for your advice!</p>

<p>That is really quite a range of different types of schools…</p>

<p>For undergrad business, I can tell you that the Kelly School of Business at Indiana U. is very good and developing quite a good reputation. It does not have a program in hotel administration, however. My niece is in the Kelly School and loves it.</p>

<p>IU has a reputation as a party school, but it also has a wide range of top-notch academic programs (possibly, underrated compared to its Big 10 peers). It’s a big school with large graduate programs. It does not have engineering programs (ag, engineering, etc. are at Purdue, the other Indiana flagship u. and the med school is in Indy) so it’s more focused on liberal arts/science and certain professional schools.</p>

<p>IU’s campus is beautiful and Bloomington is a pretty nice college town. IU is a little over an hour south of Indianapolis (or, alternatively, a long winding route off the beaten track east of I-69 through Brown County, which is beautiful in the Fall). It’s colder than OR and at certain times of the year, that part of Indiana can be somewhat humid. The state of Indiana is more conservative than OR.</p>

<p>I will second the reputation of the Kelly School of Business at Indiana University. My daughter went to Indiana and loved it! She had a good friend who graduated undergrad in business. The campus is beautiful and the students friendly. Although it has had the reputation of a “party school” (as many colleges do), it has the complete range of conservative to liberal people and activities. My daughter was involved with several large Christian organizations on campus and felt very comfortable not being a partier. The school is its own entity, but adjoins the downtown with fun shops and a large variety of restaurants. With Big 10 sports, cultural opportunities, a great campus and many good academic programs, it is the quintessential college experience IMO. It might serve you well to check into it further.</p>