What does it take to be in Intelligence after graduation?

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<p>Based on the 2008 numbers, only 4 people made it in there. I'm really interested in what you have to do to get in. Any insight, like how many people apply or what major you have to be etc..., to this would be very much appreciated.</p>

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<p>Traditinally, intell billets have been available only to Mids deemed to be restricted, i.e. physical limitations, color blind, etc.</p>

<p>More recently several intell billets have been given to non-restricted Mids, requiring 2 surface cruises prior to their intell assignments. </p>

<p>I understand it is possible to request a transfer from another professional community,with no requirement or expectation that it be given.</p>

<p>Others may have more knowledge of your interest.</p>

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<p>ThFatAnorexic,</p>

<p>Check the following link about the Info Dominance Community (IDC), which talks about requirements for the SWO-Intel Option: <a href=“http://www.usna.edu/cyber/idc/IDC.ppt[/url]”>http://www.usna.edu/cyber/idc/IDC.ppt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Note: There are not many billets for Intel and I am sure it is competitive!</p>

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<p>it is my understanding that both the academy and rotc are geared toward producing unrestricted line officers ie aviators, submariners, swos, etc…it is possible to go restricted line if they think something is physically wrong with you, but it is still very hard for the number of spots they have</p>

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<p>If you go Marine can you go direct Intel?</p>

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<p>Hmmmmm ok. That link was especially helpful jadler, thank you. It helped me figure that what I desired wasn’t intelligence, but information warfare. But on that note, and as 1390hopeful said, it is very hard to get in. Assuming I am physically unable to serve in the restricted lines (uncertain as of yet), what do they look for in choosing for the IDC? I assume grades are probably one of the most important, if not the most important factors in deciding, but what else? </p>

<p>And also, I imagine that there are more than only 10-20 people who are not physically qualified to serve on the restricted lines, and yet that is about the number of spots available? Where would everyone else serve? </p>

<p>Oh yeah and can someone explain the diagrams on the link jadler provided? Slides 5 and 6, the “Career Path” and “Typical Billets.” </p>

<p>Thanks for the help!</p>

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<p>TheFatAnorexic,</p>

<p>Unrestricted Line: Refers to communities such as aviation, surface (SWO), subsurface; USNA tries to commission as many officers down this path</p>

<p>Restricted Line: Refers to communities such as the IDC, Eng Duty, Human Resources, Public Affairs</p>

<p>Staff Corps: Refers to Medical Corps, Dental Corps, and Chaplains</p>

<p>In order to select the SWO-Intel, SWO-IW, and SWO-IP options there CANNOT be a medical disqualification from serving in unrestricted line – otherwise, one couldn’t complete the SWO part of the option!</p>

<p>Boards for IDC will most likely be biased to Computer Science and certain Engineering majors. As some of the slides indicated, it is specifically limited to Group I/II majors.
Additionally, major courses are given a heavier weight than other courses. Most likely, teacher input will factor, as some of the professors that teach classes sit on those boards – motivation and dedication are important.</p>

<p>Attainment into the selected option community is dependent on the SWO qualification. You will be required to serve at least 27 months on a ship prior to re-designation.</p>

<p>The career path and billet slides are a notional representation of a typical pipeline path. This is the career progression you can expect (but not necessarily the exact path) once re-designated to the community. There is a comments section for each slide, which gives a good contextual description – I recommend you read that.</p>

<p>Marines might be able to choose an Intel option during The Basic School (TBS). It is NOT a part of these options.</p>

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<p>Hold on… The IDC is for restricted lines, but being in Intelligence/Information Warfare/ Information Professional is for unrestricted lines? Now I’m really spinning in circles… I thought they were the same thing? :confused:</p>

<p>And as for the career path and billet slides, I was referring more to what the actual words/acronyms mean. For instance, on the IW slide, the typical billet includes “NIOC Divoff, NPS, Cyber, SPECWAR, NSA.” What does all that mean?</p>

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<p>IW/IP/Intel (all which form IDC) = Restricted Line
SWO = Unrestricted Line</p>

<p>Once re-designation occurs and you transfer communities from SWO to IW/IP/Intel, then you become a restricted line officer.</p>

<p>NIOC = Navy Information Operations Command
DIVOFF (DIVO) = Division Officer
NPS = Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA
SPECWAR = Special Warfare
NSA = National Security Agency, Ft Meade, MD</p>

<p>Try googleing/yahooing any terms, normally you will be able to find some information on the terms.</p>

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<p>So if I were unable to serve as a SWO, then the IDC career path would be unattainable?</p>

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<p>Not necessarily. The programs in the powerpoint are for those medically qualified for unrestricted line. Medical disqualifications are normally determined on a case-by-case basis.</p>

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<p>You two are not quite communicating on the same frequency.</p>

<p>Graduation from NA: eligible for unrestricted lines such as SWO; a mid may also, because of physical issues, be elgibile only for restricted lines such as Intel.
Once SWO qualified, a Navy officer MAY choose [attempt] to go Intel; this is the process referred to in the slide show.</p>

<p>TFA. Generally, upon graduation, Intel is not a “choice” available to mids. That is, it is only through unusual circumstances–phsyical or other problem–that intel becomes a choice [as in one of a few restricrted line choices] available to a mid.</p>

<p>Does this make it any clearer? [Jadler correct me if I mis-stated this.]</p>

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<p>Also,

With the exception of a very few color blind candidates, you will not be admitted unless you are qualified for SWO. Therefore, barring medical issues which either develop or are discovered while a mid, you will be able to serve as a SWO.</p>

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<p>I don’t think color-blind CANDIDATES are admitted. [Although I’m sure it happens some time or the other] Some MIDS, who develop color-blindess [or, rather, who’s color vision deteriorates] while at the Academy are eligible for restricted lines.</p>

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<p>And the Marine Corps.</p>

<p>Supt has the authority to personally waive the color requirements and normally does so each year for a very few very select candidates.</p>

<p>Not to say that if you flunk the FALANT test on I-Day that you won’t be sent home.</p>

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<p>Bill,</p>

<p>Right on.</p>

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Okay, so I’ve just been deemed physically ineligible to meet the standards of the DoDMERB by Larry Mullen. Also, he said “the odds would be highly unlikely” to be considered for a medical waiver. So, this being the case, does the IDC become “more certain” to be a “choice?” </p>

<p>And actually, how will this affect me being able to enter the academy? From what I interpret from [the</a> Medical Examination Admission step](<a href=“http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps7.htm]the”>http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps7.htm), my chances are slim?</p>

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<p>When Mullin said “the odds would be highly unlikely” to be considered for a medical waiver, I am relatively certain this is that to which he was referring.</p>

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<p>Bet your a**? Or is that considered hazing these days?</p>

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Really? Man, that is really disappointing… :(</p>