i heard MIT values Hispanics a lot, is that true? What other schools value being an URM a lot?
The eastern LACs especially do. They are mid single digit in Hispanic students.
Are you talking about Amherst and Williams also? @BatesParents2019
Look at the CDS for the school of interest.
Off the top of my head, Brown University has made a big commitment to helping URM/First-gen students the chance to study there.
LACs in the Northeast are, generally speaking, very whitewashed and are trying to diversify; they value URMs veru much. However, several black and hispanic friends I have noted that at their LACs (Bowdoin, Bates, and Middlebury) they feel very “different”, and the lack of diversity is evident on campus. Even if they are not treated in a directly hostile manner, they do feel the “microaggressions” that a URM is going to inevitably face in an overwhelmingly white school (people touching their hair without asking, hearing “you’re very well spoken for a black person”, people making off-color or racist jokes, etc). I think this is something to keep in mind when you consider schools schools that value URMs a lot- visits can be helpful in this regard so you can get a feel for the campus.
“i heard MIT values Hispanics a lot, is that true? What other schools value being an URM a lot?”
Well our Mexican-American son, NMF and winner, was waitlisted there. Is that what you meant?
You can’t use the case of any one student to speak to the whole. The question wasn’t about schools where every qualified URM gets in and that can’t be expected in the uber selectives.
Yes plus Colgate, Washington & Lee, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Wesleyan, Carleton, Hamilton, Middlebury, Bucknell, some Ivy too like Dartmouth.
Post #5, I think it depends on the URM. I would think there are more Mexican-American kids from California so that’s why, but if your kid from a different state then there’s slightly higher odds.
Meant it as an example, @BrownParent, but I don’t think I worded it correctly.
Each URM kid is so different with varied ethnicities and backgrounds so, what one URM has, another one might have not. I agree with @DrGoogle that it is all in the odds.
OP: Each class that MIT builds will be different and URM status might not be considered if the rest of the “vitae” adds something to the class and is great.
I don’t think you should pin your hopes on being URM to get admission into an elite school; that seems to be the point of the post, (I think?) finding schools that value your URM status for admission?
OP your application, academics, activities should speak for you. If the school happens to need you for “diversity” then it might sway a vote, but you can’t assume that the ethnicity will give you better chances.
Don’t you find your question off color? Offensive even?
@rubberfall ^ How so? Shouldn’t students contemplate what they are looking for in a school before they apply? Some do, some don’t. How different is it if a student with severe ADD is asking for schools that has a culture that embrace those students?
As Aunt Bea stated to OP. A college is building a different class each year. What worked last year, may not necessarily work this year. Therefore OP just needs to garner a robust application profile and research school. For each selective school, if that is the plan, find an alternate school that has similarities.
I don’t think the question is offensive. Schools are looking for a certain kind of diversity. Some students can offer exactly that. Why not find out where you are likely to gain from your life experiences (knowing that in doing so, you are automatically going to put yourself into an environment where you are not part of the majority culture and therefore potentially at a disadvantage - a disadvantage you would not experience were you to attend a school that had a significant population of students coming from a similar cultural background.)
Back to schools that would value the diversity that an Hispanic applicant might add: Midwestern LACs for certain. Go to the Common Data Set for any schools you are interested in and check out the profile for diversity. Any school where your particular kind of RM is U, means your application may get a second look if you otherwise meet the academic requirements for admission.
@rubberfall No more offensive than asking whether a school values legacies (such as Penn), basketball players (such as UConn), hearing impaired students (RIT), cello players, LGBT students, siblings, artists, students from abroad, volunteerism, et, etc. Just curious as to why URM status would be singled out as off color?
I found the question offensive as it implies the OP is looking for schools that trump race over merit. It’s not the same as looking for a school that has services for a kid with severe ADD, or putting a class together with the usual requisite composite that makes up a class. That’s a given. URM status is even a known hook.
But the question is not about choosing a school based on interest, need, it’s based on being Hispanic. As if the school places more on race than merit. Which is offensive to both Hispanics and holistic admissions.
Please review the various threads on race and admissions if I’m still not making my point clearly.
@rubberfall You have it wrong. It is a matter of odds. I did not suggest the New England LACs would accept a Hispanic student soley based on race or ethnicity, but they will prefer a qualified candidate that helps achieve a more balanced class.
There is nothing wrong with approaching probability while being cognizant of conditional situations.
How many more Choate, Loomis and Andover kids do those schools need?
@rubberfall not everything with race has to be offensive. Would you find it offensive if I asked what schools value SAT scores the most? What about legacy status or athletic ability?
We are all free to have our own opinions. What is considered objective or subjective is personal. No further intention of derailing this thread, just one opinion in the face of many others.
Is the OP female and interested in engineering as well? Every college is looking for that demographic.
@rubberfall As others have said OP is looking for what he/she thinks will get he/she a leg up. If OP has the stats and ECs for the calibre schools he/she is applying what precludes OP from asking what schools are receptive to what he feels is a leg up for him/her?.
Yes URM, Athelets, Legacies, Donors of Buildings are all hooks. However, with all of those , there is no guarantee a of garnering a seat in a class. You seem to be the only one bringing race in the game.
OP, if LAC’s interest you, some great ones have been recommended. However the CDS should be your bible. Google Common Data Set for the respective schools. Good luck to you!