<p>Just curious, I'm not in either one, but I heard a couple people arguing about that during orientation.</p>
<p>I’m ****ing ■■■■■■■■. I was in honors. I was not a preadmit. Good 'nuff?</p>
<p>Not that it matters, but on average, Honors students tend to be slightly stronger students than Ross preadmits (who enroll). Although the college of LSA does not publish admissions stats for Honors students, the average entering class has near 4.0 unweighed GPAs and average SAT/ACT of 1480/34.</p>
<p>Not that it matters, but on average, enrolled Honors students tend to be slightly stronger students than enrolled Ross preadmits. Although the college of LSA does not publish admissions stats for Honors students, the average entering class has near 4.0 unweighed GPAs and average SAT/ACT of 1480/34. There are virtually no students in the honors college who graduate with sub-3.9 unweighed GPAs and/or sub 1400/32 SAT/ACT scores.</p>
<p><a href=“Bachelor of Business Administration | Michigan Ross”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/Admissions/bba/BBA%20Class%20Profiles%202010.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here are the stats for the 2010 preadmits. Sorry Alexandre, but I highly doubt honors kids are exceeding these.</p>
<p>Harrr, first of all, those Ross are stats for “all admitted students”. I was talking about enrolled students. For enrolled students, the average SAT/ACT is slightly lower (1420-1430/32 for last year’s class). </p>
<p>Secondly, the average SAT/ACT for enrolled Honors students at Michigan is 1480/34.</p>
<p>This said, I think that Ross’ preadmit process is a lot less predictible, with alower acceptance rate and more holistic approach.</p>
<p>as of south quad honors section resident</p>
<p>I think many of Honors students are pre-med .</p>
<p>lots of them turn down Ivy for come UM med.</p>
<p>They are very smart and hard worker to me.</p>
<p>I will find out Ross next fall…</p>
<p>According to the admissions office 1/3 of LSA is Honors…
and only a few hundred people even get accepted to Ross
i think that speaks for itself</p>
<p>1/3 huh?! LOL! Each year, 500 freshmen are invited into the Honors programs…out of 4,000. That’s more like the top 15%. But even if it were the top 33%, do you realize that those students still have SAT/ACT over 1400/30. The top third at Michigan are amazing students…certainly on par with Ross students.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that you didn’t have to be invited, can you not just submit an essay? or is it on invitation only?
sorry if i feel it’s not that significant it’s just that i come from a pretty good school where all of my friends easily made honors…</p>
<p>Alexandre,
Out of the 500 offered admission into the Honors program, do you know how many accept? Do you know how large the incoming Honors freshman class is?</p>
<p>^Yes, you can just submit an essay.</p>
<p>“I was under the impression that you didn’t have to be invited, can you not just submit an essay? or is it on invitation only?”</p>
<p>Students who aren’t invited can ask to be considered, but the vast majority of Honors students are invited. Only a tiny fraction of students who ask to be considered without a formal invitation are allowed into honors. Either way, virtually 100% of Honors students have near perfect school records with 1400+ SAT scores and 32+ ACT scores.</p>
<p>“sorry if i feel it’s not that significant it’s just that i come from a pretty good school where all of my friends easily made honors…”</p>
<p>That may be, but that would just mean that all your friends are brilliant students. The average Honors students has Harvard stats.</p>
<p>“That may be, but that would just mean that all your friends are brilliant students. The average Honors students has Harvard stats.”</p>
<p>Having many friends in honors, I can say that most are NOT brilliant and that having Harvard stats is incredibly deceiving (not saying that there aren’t very intelligent people in the mix). </p>
<p>If Vegas would let me bet on a quizbowl or super-nerd-a-thon between honors students and incoming Harvard kids, I’d be stupid to not throw the house, car, and college fund on Harvard.</p>
<p>HARRRR, I guess we each have our personal experience. But at Michigan, on average, Honors students tend to be more academically inclined than Ross students.</p>
<p>If Honors kids are more academically inclined than Ross students then what “requirements” does one need to fulfill in order to get into Ross Pre admit</p>
<p>On top of a near 4.0 unweighed GPA and strong standardized test scores, Ross wants to read a well articulated essay on why one wishes to pursue Business studies, preferrably supported with some real-world experience/application. I also recall reading somewhere that virtually 100% of successful preadmit applicants have taken AP Calculus in high school.</p>
<p>Sounds like HARRR is just royally ****ed to be placed on North Campus even though supposedly “guaranteed” central campus as a freshman. I’d be angry too, although the Honors web site says there really is no guarantee.</p>
<p>I don’t know if I was an exception (I HIGHLY doubt it though), but I’d guess that a decent amount of Ross preferred admits are invited to apply to honors since they are, after all, in LSA, but I could be wrong. I would say though that I’m probably less academically-inclined than the honors kids because the only reason I didn’t apply to honors was because the essay would’ve taken me an hour to write, when I would much rather be doing other things. Plus, I was ‘invited’ to apply a few days before the deadline, but then again, I applied waaaay late and didn’t hear back til April 3rd or 6th or something.</p>
<p>I would say they’re probably equal though, but it really doesn’t matter. It’s just a personal opinion, and I could be wrong seeing as I’ve never met anyone in honors OR any other preferred admits irl, so</p>
<p>The only thing is that you can’t stay in Honors and Ross at the same time (which is a shame…it’s Ross that won’t allow the dual enrollment, forcing students to choose).</p>