<p>Hmm... I'm 1540 old rank...but 2190 new one...yeah my writing sucks...</p>
<p>On average:</p>
<p>1875 = 1250 (a 1270, which translates to a 1905, is the minimum required grade for the highest scholarship at a Florida state school.)
1950 = 1300
2025 = 1350
2100 = 1400
2175 = 1450
2250 = 1500
2325 = 1550
2400 = 1600</p>
<p>Multiply each old SAT score by 1.5, then round up. Do the math.</p>
<p>Fizix, you cant just do that. I got a 2180 but a 1500.</p>
<p>You also can't get anything that isn't a multiple of 10 XP</p>
<p>You can't just directly value things like that because the new Math and Verbal sections no longer follow the exact same format as the old 1600 test.</p>
<p>I think "high" as 2200+, which I'd love to have, but failed, but could have, but have no other opportunity to take. argh. But 2100 is a good score.</p>
<p>My opinion:</p>
<p><1500 = Below Average
1500-1850 = OK
1860-1990 = Good
2000-2150 = Very Good
2160-2260 = Excellent
2270-2340 = Exemplary
2350-2390 = Exceptional
2400 = Outstanding</p>
<p>haha then I guess I fall into very good.</p>
<p>"The reason why I say 2390 or 2400 is truly is a high score, and the number of people who achieve this score is so low that a 2400 would offset a low GPA somewhat (Depending on the GPA)."</p>
<p>This is actually incorrect. For example, Yale says on its website that a high GPA and busy class schedule will offset 'modest' scores whereas the opposite does NOT hold true.</p>
<p>SAT scores DO NOT make up for lower GPAs. Sorry.</p>
<p>Well, here is a case study:</p>
<p>Let's try someone who is class rank 15 and someone who is class rank 1, ceteris parabis except for everything but GPA (and thereby class rank) and SAT scores.</p>
<p>Class rank 15 student:
SAT I:
CR: 750
Math: 770
Writing: 750
Composite: 1520/2270</p>
<p>SAT II:
Math Level 2: 800
Chemistry: 800
Physics: 800</p>
<p>4 AP tests with all 5s</p>
<p>Valedictorian:
SAT I:
CR: 650
Math: 620
Writing: 600
Composite: 1270/1870
SAT II:
Math Level 2: 680
Chemistry: 650
Physics: 770</p>
<p>4 AP tests (2-2, 1-3, 1-4)</p>
<p>Who would Yale admit? I'd say the class rank 15 student, because ceteris parabis, the class rank 15 student is much better equipped to handle the work.</p>
<p>Well, 1 and 15 rank doesn't really make a difference, espescially at competitive schools. How about we give actual GPAs? </p>
<p>The first person has a 2.7</p>
<p>The 2nd person has a 4.0</p>
<p>And if ceteris parabis, why do you list AP scores? </p>
<p>I think none would get admitted to Yale based on their numbers alone at this point.</p>
<p>IhDCpage06, I think your GPA estimate is a little off. In most places, a class rank of 15 means a GPA of at least 3.5. In our school, a class rank of even 30 means a GPA of at least 3.5, and our school isn't exactly smart. So, I think the first person would have the advantage.</p>
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<p>It's on average. Someone else could probably just as easily have gotten a 2320 and a 1500. It just gives you an idea of how prestigious your combined score is.</p>
<p>While multiplying the old SAT score by 1.5 to get the equivalent new SAT is probably the best way to convert from one to the other, it isn't perfect. What I think should be taken into account is the national %. The scores on the new SAT were slightly lower than the old, therefore the 1.5 method isn't perfect.</p>
<p>For example, in 2005, a 1480 was the cutoff for the 99%. On the 2006 new SAT, a 2200 was the cutoff for the 99% percentile. If you were to multiply 1480 by 1.5 to convert, you'd get 2220. However, according to national percentile, 1480 = 2200. </p>
<p>Here are the equivalents based on national % from Wikipedia:</p>
<p>1600 = 1080 (61%)
1700 = 1150 (72%)
1800 = 1220 (81%)
1900 = 1280 (88%)
2000 = 1350 (93%)
2100 = 1420 (97%)
2150 = 1450 (98%)
2200 = 1480 (99%)
2300 = 1550 (99.65%)
2400 = 1600 (99.98%)</p>
<p>Here is the source:</p>
<p>As for a "good" score and a "great" score, this is what I think:</p>
<p>2250 or more = Fantastic
2100 - 2240 = Excellent
1950 - 2090 = Very Good
1800 - 1940 = Good
1650 - 1790 = Not Bad
1500 - 1640 = Okay
1350 - 1490 = Subpar
1200 - 1340 = Bad
1000 - 1190 = Dismal
Less than 1000 = Do you have a pulse?</p>
<p>Hep, I don't think it's fair to lump a 2100 with 2200+ lol. A student with a 2100 doesn't have a very great shot at top schools solely based on SATs whereas a student with a 2200+ does. But other than that, I agree :P</p>
<p>P.S. A 2100 is the 97th percentile (I believe) and 2200 is 99th percentile. There is a huge difference between those scores, to put it into perspective, let's say 1.5M kids took the exam- the 97th percentile would include 45,000 kids approximately, while the 99th percentile would include a mere 15,000 kids. Of course the 15,000 overlap with the 45,000, but still there's 3x as many kids with 97th percentile and higher than just 99th and higher. I'd say a 2180+ would be a fair comparison to those with 2200s. I also believe the standard deviation is +/- 20-30 points per section so it's 60 or 90 points per test you could increase or decrease and still be in the normal deviation. So again, maybe a 2110 would be a fair comparison. But, I do believe it would only be fair to include your second best group from 2180-2240.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know that my score ratings aren't perfect. I just converted the old ranges for the SAT into the new. So, for the old, IMO, a 1500+ is fantastic, a 1400 - 1490 is excellent, a 1300 - 1390 is very good, and so on. Basically, I multiplied these ranges by 1.5, so that's how I came up with the 2100 - 2240 range. </p>
<p>There is a difference between a 2100 and a 2200, but not a huge one. Once scores get into the 700s on each section, the curve becomes much more harsh (especially for Math). Sometimes, as few as 2 wrong on Math = 750. In my case, I got 4 wrong = 710. Therefore, the difference between a 2100 and a 2200 can be as few as 5 questions. </p>
<p>Even the CB gives a 200 point range for the SAT. If someone gets a 2150, the range is 2050 - 2250, which lumps scores even more than my ranges.</p>
<p>It's standard deviations. I think the SD is +/- 90 points, it might be 60 though.</p>
<p>What if someone did very well ( 800 or close to 800) on two of the sections but badly on the third? Someone, for example, who is more verbal-oriented might do well on CR and writing but badly on the math. What do colleges think when they see this?</p>
<p>That's a good question that no one really knows the answer to. There is a student like that in my school. He got a 750 CR and 800 Writing, but a 600 in Math. His AP grades are all 5's (streak could be broken after the Calc AB exam) though and he does pretty well in Math class.</p>
<p>Yes, unless you're trying to get into HYPS</p>
<p>I ended up getting a 2400 on the SAT (best composite) (best single sitting of 2320). And I have a WHOLE BUNCH of 5s and only 1-4, nothing below that. But, yeah, they also look at APs. For example, if I were a 2400 with like 18 scores of 2 on the AP exams, they'd be a little weary if I could make it in college. So, like always, grades come into play.</p>