<p>At TUOS? Who is TUOS?</p>
<p>^^^^The University of Ohio State of course. Thatās what itās current illustrious quarterback and future graduate (?) called it when he declared his school of choice.</p>
<p>Oh, right. Iāve usually seen it as tOSU, not TUOS. That is kind of funny. Regardless, they are going to lose to USC.</p>
<p>I would like to see it happen amciw. However, it is much harder to win on the road against a good team in a hostile environment than constantly enjoying home cooking in the local bowl game. USC for example, has only played one time in Ann Arbor in itās entire series with Michigan. Michigan has had to play USC in its own backyard many more times, as has TUOS. The one time they played against Michigan in Ann Arbor ended in a loss for USC by the way.</p>
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<p>and the Pac 10, the Big 12, and recently the ACC.</p>
<p>lol the Pac 10. Theyāre nothing without USC.</p>
<p>and Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona State, and Cal.</p>
<p>The Big 10ās nothing without Ohio State and Penn State.</p>
<p>^^^used to say Michigan as well. Sigh. But weāll be back!</p>
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<p>These schools really havenāt done much in college FB - USC is the one traditional powerhouse program in the Pac-10.</p>
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<li>Material science (the field was born at Northwestern), chemistry, economics, industrial engineering, and sociology are top-5 or top-10.<br></li>
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National Academy of Sciences members:
Northwestern 16
Brown 11
Dartmouth 2</li>
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<h1>National Academy of Engineering members:</h1>
<p>Northwestern 19
Brown 3
Columbia 16
Dartmouth 3
Penn 9
Yale 6
[The</a> National Academies](<a href=āhttp://www.nas.edu/about/]Theā>http://www.nas.edu/about/)</p>
<p>American Academy of Arts and Sciences
Northwestern 65
Brown 34
Dartmouth 6
<a href=āhttp://www.amacad.org/pdfs/classSection08.pdf[/url]ā>http://www.amacad.org/pdfs/classSection08.pdf</a></p>
<p>^ If I may also add</p>
<p>Northwestern: an ugly painted rock</p>
<p>Samā¦bclinton said it was a Stanford wannabeā¦can you post the comparison for your undergrad and grad alma maters? ;)</p>
<p>^Note that I didnāt dispute every single word. That said, Northwestern is not Stanford wannabe either. I can name only one thing they have in common-a man-made lagoon. But the one at Stanford leaks and is often dry!</p>
<p>why does everyone on here assume that Iowa is only good for corn?
anyone who seriously thinks that is a jackass</p>
<p>Northwestern isnāt Stanford the same way apples arenāt oranges! Theyāre both very good, but just have a very different feel, IMO.</p>
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<p>How did Michiganās game against Oregon in 2007 turn out for the Wolverines? It was in the āBig Houseā, so they should have won.</p>
<p>Weāll see about USC vs. tOSU. I donāt see USC losing unless the game is scheduled to time cheat, like Calās game against Maryland in 2008.</p>
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<p>Washington? UCLA? What is your definition of traditional power? You canāt deny the schools above if you are focusing on recent history, and itās a bit hard to exclude the two I mentioned if you are looking at the 1980s and before.</p>
<p>Moreover, itās rather hard to see how a the traditional status of a program is relevant in determining its worth in āmakingā a conference, as the latter measure is something which is a short-term observation, not long-term (yes, we are assuming your definition of traditional is the long version.)</p>
<p>^^^Wow, talk about getting off topic. I was talking about USC, not Oregon. Yes Michigan has s*cked the past couple of years, especially last year. Historically we have beaten the west coast teams that have come to play in our place. Not every time, but much more often than not. You cannot deny that USC has a HUGE home advantage in the amount of games played against all Big Ten teams throughout the years. I believe they also cheat btw. I wish the NCAA would come down on them already.</p>
<p>Can you rank the Big 10 for the following :-
1)Undergrad in Mechanical Eng
2)Internships
3)National and International prestige
4)Amount of generous scholarships given to international students</p>
<p>I know it depends on the student as well </p>
<p>I am student with grades between Average and above average</p>
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And in educationā¦ top programs in primary/secondary teacher education, administration. Also one of the oldest programs in hospitality management.</p>
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<p>In general, Michigan and Northwestern are the most prestigious, followed by Wisconsin and Illinois.</p>
<p>About scholarships given to international students - It is wise to remember that all of the Big 10 schools, except for Northwestern, are public universities. They are funded by the taxpayers of those states. Their primary mission is to educate the children of those taxpayers at a reasonable cost. </p>
<p>They are generally speaking, not great at financial aid to out-of-state students ā because why should they be? Why should the taxpayers of a given state be paying their taxes to a college and have that college use it to subsidize residents of another state instead of providing aid to residents of that state? And therefore youāll also find that they probably arenāt the best place to go for international students requiring lots of aid.</p>
<p>Frankly as an Illinois resident, I gladly pay my taxes to ensure U of I is a good school, but I can easily see how most Illinois residents want those taxes to be productive for them in terms of keeping tuition reasonably affordable for promising Illinois students ā not used to subsidize out of state or international students. I feel differently about my donations to Northwestern (a private school) because Northwestern isnāt taxing the residents of the state of Illinois for its coffers and my donations to Northwestern are voluntary.</p>
<p>It kind of annoys me, actually, that this question comes up (not directed at the poster, just a general comment). Itās a real sense of entitlement to think that state schools funded through those stateās taxpayers should be falling all over themselves to offer substantial aid to people out of state or internationally.</p>
<p>I totally agree Pizzagirl. The most aggravating thing I find on CC are people that complain about a school like UMich for not giving enough financial aid to OOS and international students, while at the same time dissing the whole state of Michigan for not being as good in their perceptions as where they come from.</p>