<p>I'm sure they jest more with WashU. They know its a good school. I jest about Emory a bit too but I know its one of the best in the South. But with Vandy people seem to really take it to heart. Its bashed on in an overbearing way. Maybe they feel that the Top 20 is for those that werent in the in crowd in high school and when people hear of a school thats known for having white, preppy, rich and pretty kids they feel that shouldnt belong. I dont know. I am over analyzing.</p>
<p>I am an atlanta native and married a Vandy girl and my brother went to Vandy. Now I can't talk about Rice, I can talk about Emory and Vandy. Both are good schools with lots of money. Both have great undergrad programs with a outstanding medical facility associated with them. But the schools are both very different. My recommendation is to go where you feel comfortable because the students are very different. Vandy's entertainment is based on, like other southern universities, div.-1 sports and frat. and sor. I will tell you that those populations are dropping at Vandy. Emory's entertainment is based on Atlanta as a city. They have a small bar neighborhood that everyone spends there evenings and they go to Atl sports and entertainment centers. Vandy is a more confined body in which the school tries and entertain the students and the students live on campus (84%) vs Emory in which students are spread out over many different apartment complexs in which many students have to drive to school, almost like a commuter school.
So question gets to be, what type of campus life do you want? The Schools from an academic stand point is to close to call.......</p>
<p>"But with Vandy people seem to really take it to heart."</p>
<p>I think it's you who's taking it to heart. I can understand making a topic to see what the overall opinion of Vandy is, but to start arguing with people when they state there opinions (stretching the topic to 9 pages)? Really, does it matter what people think? As long as you know it's a good school, that's all that matters, right?</p>
<p>And by the way, many of the people who "bash" on WUStL and Emory aren't joking.</p>
<p>I agree with trey, the decision should come down to fit. Vanderbilt & Emory are both top 20 for undergrad and offer great academics. Visit and see which school feels like home.</p>
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I think it's you who's taking it to heart. I can understand making a topic to see what the overall opinion of Vandy is, but to start arguing with people when they state there opinions (stretching the topic to 9 pages)? Really, does it matter what people think? As long as you know it's a good school, that's all that matters, right?
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<p>What is your deal? I am not out to make Vandy look like HYP. I just disagreed when it came down to Emory being a better school, which by looking at the stats; is not. But thats my opinion and I respect everyone elses. The topic later switched to people that have a bias against Vandy which many in here agreed to. Why arent you also ranting and raving at them for sharing the same opinion? Get outta here! You seem to be the only one with such a big gripe over all this.</p>
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So basically, it doesnt deserve its international and domestic ratings? Because internationally Vandy beats Rice by a bigger gap than domestically.
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No...Rice=Vandy>Emory
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What is it about Vandy, Blairt, that gives it the image you described? Its involvement in a big southern sports conference? Its frattish image? The typical rich elitists kids that live in the Vandy bubble? The schools is HIGHLY ranked in Law, medicine, humanities, economics, business.
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<p>From the beginning, you've had a combative tone. When there were more disagreements on the subject, you argued more, instead of just letting them continue to think what they want (whether or not that is true to reality is another issue in itself).</p>
<p>"Why arent you also ranting and raving at them for sharing the same opinion?"</p>
<p>Because they didn't start arguing with you yet saying "I just want an opinion."</p>
<p>"You seem to be the only one with such a big gripe over all this."</p>
<p>You seem to have taken my response as a personal attack. It wasn't, so simmer down a little, accept others' ideas (such as the ones I just handed you), and enjoy CC without getting defensive over what people say about your school / you.</p>
<p>vandy is very similar to emory, wake forest, washington university...it has s great academic prestige. it's not faux...students just balance partying with studying.</p>
<p>I want to stab my eyes out for reading all 9 pages of this slam fest.</p>
<p>But seriously Ruben, I got the same feel when I started reading this thread. Seems less like your asking for opinions, more like your trying to argue a certain school.</p>
<p>And for the record, I think Rice is better than Vanderbilt and Emory. But I live in Houston, so...</p>
<p>Vandy is a huge partying school...as is Emory. Don't get me wrong, they're solid, academically, at least, and their grad programs are top notch, but the UG population tends to major in fermentation studies.</p>
<p>The schools, however, are large enough that you can probably find an ok atmosphere if you're not in to liquor. But you should know that the atmosphere as a whole is very Greek and has all the trappings.</p>
<p>Rice is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more intellectual.</p>
<p>So, in summary,</p>
<p>Go to Vandy or Emory for grad/professional school, but stick to places like Rice for UG.</p>
<p>Even simpler summary: Rice >> Vandy = Emory.</p>
<p>Eh.. I never really associated Vandy w/ academics...</p>
<p>in some regards, rice is the stronger school.
if you look at some elements, like number of merit scholars, and the ranking for top 50 feeder schools, than rice out-ranks emory and vandy.
on the top 50 feeder schools, based on where students came from as they entered the top grad programs (business, lawm med school, etc), Rice ranked number 20, emory ranked number 36, and Vandy did not make the top 50.
Vandy is getting more selective, and i would guess that in 4 or more years they will be in the top 50 feeder schools. but as for now, rice is #20--pretty darn impressive. and number 36 for emory is not too shabby.
but everyone values different things.
vandy is gorgeous.
i loved our visit there.</p>
<p>^^^If I am not mistaken, this WSJ ranking method looks at the "per graduate" rate for the entire undergraduate student body, which is not a bad way to do it, but fails to take into account that Vanderbilt includes the Peabody School of Education. Graduates of Peabody are generally not trying to gain admission to top Law and Medical schools, or the other graduate programs included in the WSJ study. I'm not knocking Peabody, it is a very good education program; however, I think it might unfairly dilute Vanderbilt's statistics to not account for it.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
<p>Wall Street Journal’s Top 50 Feeder Schools
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Methodology: Fifteen graduate schools, 5 from each of the programs in medicine, law and business, were selected as the “best” graduate schools by consensus of grad-school deans and top-recruiters combined with published graduate school rankings. These graduate schools were monitored to see where the 5,100 incoming graduate students obtained their undergraduate degrees, factoring in the size of the undergraduate institution in the overall "feeder score."</p>
<p>MIDMO: interesting thought. I think other schools, like emory's God. Bus. School, have a similar situation as that of Peabody.
and then the feeder list was constructed in 2003 and may be out of date.
see the pasted info below.</p>
<p>"These rankings were created to show which top 50 undergraduate universities were sending (aka feeding) more students to the selected 15, elite graduate school programs in medicine (Columbia, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, University of California San Francisco, Yale), law (Chicago, Columbia, Harvard, Michigan and Yale ) and business (Chicago, Dartmouth's Tuck School, Harvard, MIT's Sloan School and Penn's Wharton School ). For more information see the related article "Want to go to Harvard Law?" by Elizabeth Bernstein published in the Wall Street Journal, September 23, 2003, page W.1."</p>