<p>A school of prestige? Super talented students only? I've heard of some students being rejected by Georgetown but accepted into harvard! Any other crazy random facts/stories? Thanks! (:</p>
<p>I think Georgetown’s prestige mainly lies in SFS. That does not mean that the rest of the schools are not prestigious, it is just that I do not think they can compete with the other top 15-10 schools as much as specifically SFS. I would not say all students here are super talented. In fact there are some, like everywhere else, whose presence might surprise you. As for the name recognition, I doubt it is nearly as strong as the top Ivies, especially outside the US. But again, I know people who did not know anything about Columbia and asked one of the accepted students if it was a public school. So depends on who you are dealing with. The people who are hiring know the best.</p>
<p>Georgetown has a wealthier image than some other top schools, since its endowment is much lower and it can’t offer as much FA.</p>
<p>Ugh is that true?! My efc is a couple grand higher than a affordable amount… I think it’s an amazing school but it’s gonna cone down to money in the end, unfortunately.</p>
<p>I’m not surprised that someone might have been rejected from Georgetown and accepted to Harvard, though I doubt it happens more than a few times a year, there’s always a couple of odd cases in the admission game.</p>
<p>While it’s true that the SFS has the highest prestige of all the schools, the quality of students in that school aren’t really that much better than the other schools and its admission rate has actually come in as third lowest this year (after the college and MSB).</p>
<p>My EFC is a substantial amount higher than what I can afford, so I know what you mean guevara.</p>
<p>However if i do get into Gtown and get enough aid where all that’s left is my EFC, I will most likely go.</p>
<p>Vani19, our business school is also ranked #10 in the country by BusinessWeek. So its not just the SFS.</p>
<p>Also, Georgetown offers great financial aid. Close to 50% of students receive some sort of financial aid.</p>
<p>Georgetown meets full need, so I don’t know why people are saying they have bad financial aid. They’re much better than most.</p>
<p>Goodluck zapad! </p>
<p>Is the business school particularly rigorous? </p>
<p>I know that they have a much lower endowment than ivys but hopefully it doesn’t impair financial aid awards…</p>
<p>the mba program is rated 10, the undergrad is 21 i think. maybe 23.</p>
<p>First of all, I was not looking at various rankings to determine the level of Georgetown’s prestige. I was simply stating my observations and those of some of the faculty. As for the rankings, the USNEWS ranking of 21 is for the University as a whole, including all of the schools. The Newsweek ranking does give McDonough no. 10 but I am not sure whether that’s realistic because many renown BSchools - like Wharton and Stern - seem to be placed down the list further than they really should be. </p>
<p>As for the financial aid, the problem with Georgetown is that it does meet 100% of students’ needs but they count loans in that. Most of the universities that Georgetown considers peer schools also meet 100% need but for certain low income families - usually below 60-50k a year - loans are completely eliminated. In fact, some top schools eliminate loans for all students, regardless of their income (Columbia, if I’m not mistaken). This is why Georgetown’s 100% need pledge can be somewhat deceptive.</p>
<p>Georgetown is ranked #21 due to its low endowment, not the level of education. We are ranked #6 in the country by counselors, but our endowment is around 80 if I’m not mistaken, which brings us down greatly. Secondly, I’m not sure where your bias is coming from but many Georgetown Business School students work for great companies after graduation, hence the #10 ranking. Georgetown’s business school has greatly improved in the last few years with the new business school building as well as a new curriculum and grading policy that schools such as Wharton and Stern also have.</p>
<p>Secondly, financial aid for lower income families does not have loans in it and I speak from experience. As someone who currently has a full ride with no loans in it and whose family makes in the 60-70k range, I can tell you that the financial aid is great, better than many peer institutions. Georgetown is also trying to increase the money it gives out in financial aid each year which will help lower the number of loans given to middle class families that make around 100k a year.</p>
<p>Be careful when comparing endowments. There were some universities with huge endowments that had to take out huge loans to meet payroll. That is because their endowments were tied up in all kinds of non-liquid and sometimes risky investments. Also, the endowment numbers for some colleges may hide a huge amount of debt. Some colleges have debt equal to their supposed endowment.</p>
<p>Georgetown has a long history of minimizing its debt, and paying for projects AFTER they raise the money.</p>
<p>To add to what Charlie said, Georgetown has one of the best managed endowments in the country. During the financial crisis, many universities lost a large part of their endowment (about $10 billion for Harvard: <a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/business/11harvard.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/business/11harvard.html</a>) due to mismanaged investments. Georgetown, on the other hand lost only about $100 million which it recently made back through donations.</p>
<p>^ Anonymous, I have an even lower income but I did get loans and when I talked to them they said they met full need and did not wish to discuss this any further. I am not sure based on what they gave you a loan-free package and not me. So I also speak from my experience.</p>
<p>Vani19:</p>
<p>They gave you loans and after didn’t want to discuss any negotiations?! Ahhhh</p>
<p>^ Well, I was not told exactly that way but that was the implication. When I called them and started talking about this they repeated “well, I see that we met your full need, bla bla blah” couple of times. I even had to say “no, that is not what I am asking you” to get them to hear me and still no results. They did not even consider me for the Academic Competitiveness Grant(year 2) (I got year one at a different school) until I pressed them and they finally included it so that it would reduce my 3k work-study a little. I can barely work for all of my 2k in work-study, I would have to kill myself for 3k.</p>
<p>I’m sorry to hear that you aren’t receiving what you think is fair financial aid but if they met your full need then that’s better than most schools. Georgetown is trying to reduce the number of loans they give out according to financial aid officers. Most people I know say they received a fair amount of financial aid.</p>
<p>^No, I was not saying that their aid is not one of the best by any means. It is, its just that it does not seem to be as good as lets say my previous school which replaced all loans with grants. Perhaps this is because I’m a transfer and they did not have more at that moment? I’ll see what will happen for the next year and tell based on that.</p>
<p>Perception…heaven for a grad student who takes full advantage of the education at Geogetown and DC</p>