What it's like to be poor in an Ivy League(or any elite/respectable private college)

Didn’t use silverware? I have to assume you are talking about only having poor old stainless flatware…or…

^Some cultures use their hands, some cultures use chopsticks.

I think oldfort, if I recall is Asian, and may have had traditional chopsticks or even in some Asian cultures, eating with your hands is customary.

Chopsticks. I could eat anything with chopsticks.

It sucks to be poor going to an elite school or college in general, but that is life. You have to work, be inventive and most importantly not be afraid to ask for help.

My wife and I had a difficult time paying for school.

Now we will send two to college who will probably be looked upon as upper middle class kids with all the privilege that entails.

I wonder what the students in the article will say in 20-30 years when their kids are about to attend college and have the benefits of educated parents and legacy admissions? Will they still look down upon the unfairness of privilege, when their children are the recipients?

It sucks? Isn’t this what everyone is trying/hoping to do?

@dadoftwingirls We face that exact situation at the moment. Both my wife were first generation college graduates from URM, fast forward 28 years or so, and a JD, MD, MBA and a MPH between us, while we don’t look down on the any accrued benefits of legacy, and never even viewed it in such a way, our biggest and most compelling thing we tell our Ds is the responsibility these degrees have to their community and their culture.

In our house, education has always been placed as the highest priority, but a priority that has a reciprocal feature that you must give back, and at some point return the gesture of assisting someone through the process.

Kids matching that description go to the private instead of the public. USC instead of UCLA. And so on.

Where do they go if they are too spoiled for USC?

I’ve been told the preferred term is “cottage”, at least if it has a water view :wink:

“Wealthy and BMW driving and foreign country visiting” and “spoiled” are two entirely different concepts. They may or may not be found in the same person. Of course, jealous types like to assuage their envy by pretending that the first necessarily encompasses the second.

I guess I’m glad that my (full pay) kids are going to schools where they are too busy doing their p-sets to worry about whether someone else has money to go out to dinner ('cause their “allowance” is pretty pathetic). Fortunately, at their schools, the vast majority of kids are also doing their p-sets, regardless of their “heritage”.

Mike mac, you couldn’t be more wrong. There are PLENTY of well to do kids at state flagships, especially in areas where state flagships are perfectly fine schools.

Agreed. Where you don’t find nearly as many rich kids is at directional schools. If they live in CA, WI, IL, MI, etc. and don’t get into the flagship/s, they are more likely to choose a private school or OOS flagship that’s less selective.

Pepperdine? j/k

Pepperdine…haha, no. While incredibly picturesque, one of the most conservative campuses in the nation. It’s both a dry and very strict campus about conduct…not sure, it would have the amenities favored by the spoiled contingent.

I didn’t take the article to be whiny or complaining, and no one seemed to be demanding anything from anyone. Rather, it seems some students wanted to organize first gen kids so as to help others like themselves have an easier time adjusting to college life. I also didn’t take there to be any implication in the article that the richer kids were “spoiled.” I only mentioned that word in my post in response to another poster who questioned who those parents are who can give their kids so much spending money. I was actually attempting to say that being spoiled or not was a separate dynamic from elite school culture, as it is a mindset kids learn at home and bring to campus. I don’t think I expressed it well enough. I agree that the label “spoiled” is usually undeserved and comes from jealousy.

My kids never complained about any entitled attitudes from their wealthy classmates. There was more of an inablilty–not unwillingness, though–to fully comprehend the economic limitations of middle or lower class students, on the order of the generic OJ example above. Or if you were to say you didn’t have the money to do something, they would take that literally to mean you just didn’t have the cash on you at the moment because maybe you didn’t get to the bank–not that you couldn’t afford it today, tomorrow, or anytime soon.

I had an eye opening college experience as well. We were comfortable but not rich. I met some truly rich people, beyond my imagination rich. Like a group of us was invited to spend the night in NYC. I expected sleeping on the floor in a pile. We each had our own room plus maid service. It was like a hotel. Wow. The friend whose house it was was very understated about her background, however. I would never have guessed.

There were things I couldn’t do because I couldn’t afford it. I did work campus jobs for spending money, and spent more time with kids with more modest backgrounds like me.

Okay, I just have to laugh at the BMW kids going to privates instead of publics. We rent to students at what would be considered a 2nd tier university. However, it has an amazing Chem E and petroleum E program. Our garage has sported BMW’s Mercedes and an occasional RR and yes…even a Bentley. Can you guess which ‘foreign’ students might be the owners…Oh…and they probably make pretty good networking contacts too :slight_smile:

At least their parents aren’t being stuck with the tab, like the unpoor parents