<p>With a 3.9 unweighted GPA and a 4.6 UC GPA, what SAT score would you need OOS? I know a lot of other factors go into admission as well... I will be president of four clubs next year if that helps. Thanks!</p>
<p>i would say 2200+</p>
<p>The UCs don’t wait test scores as heavily as other colleges. Anything over 2000 is ok, but 2100+ is better. However, if applying to Engineering or Chemistry, better have high math scores.</p>
<p>with your GPA, a SAT of 2100+ might do, but 2250+ is almost a guarantee given you’re good on the other areas</p>
<p>With a 4.6 UC GPA, you would probably have a good shot with a 2100+ SAT score.</p>
<p>Sorry but what is OOS?</p>
<p>OOS stands for “Out of State.”</p>
<p>wow, that’s good news. I think a 2100 might be doable for me. Thanks guys! :)</p>
<p>isn’t the average sat a little above a 2100? if thats the case, you would probably need above a 2200 (to be even safer a 2250) to get in OOS. OOS for cal is HARDDDD.</p>
<p>^my friend last yr got in with 2040 SAT, but rejected at UCLA. go figure~
i’d say 2100 would be good enough</p>
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<p>Statistically, no harder than for instate. Run the real numbers on UC Statfinder.</p>
<p>@Ren: do you mind sharing your friends stats, because i have almost the same sat and got rejected from UCLA. . . thanks</p>
<p>High, according to statfinder, the average for admitted IS students is 1344, while for TOTAL is 1356. If we consider the fact that 93% are in-state, we can find the average for OOS. . . [93%x(1344)+7%(OOS Average)=1356] => [7%(OOS Average)=106] => [(OOS Average)=106/(7%)] => OOS Average = 1510!</p>
<p>^Nice to see that someone’s doing math during spring break.</p>
<p>Right, but don’t forget that Cal is comprised of 30% Pell Grantees which tend to be low scorers. Since all of those Pells have to be instate (UC financial aid is not good), the instate test scores are skewed downward. Deduct the Pells from the instate scores and the resulting average (for unhooked) will approach the OOS mean. So, yes, is “hard” for both (unhooked) instate and OOS, but the differential in hardness is minimal.</p>
<p>@armageddon: We don’t have spring break here in Egypt.</p>
<p>@bluebayou: I honestly have no idea what that means, and am too lazy to try and understand. What I do know is based on the college statistics, my calculations seem to lead to the fact that being out of state makes things significantly harder. What you said does sound interesting though!</p>
<p>AKDigger:</p>
<p>Each UC campus gives big admission tips to low income, first gen to college, and those kids who have faced hardships. (Others must get accepted almost solely on gpa + test scores.) As a result of those admission tips, each UC campus is comprised of about 30% really low income kids, i.e., they qualify for federal Pell Grants. And, bcos UC finaid is not great, it would be virtually impossible for a Pell Grantee to attend from OOS; thus, 99.9% of them must be instate.</p>
<p>According to CollegeBoard’s own data, SAT scores positively correlate with income; on average, higher incomes tester have higher test scores. Thus, we can reasonably conclude that the majority of the Pell Grantees are at the lower end of the SAT scores for Cal and thus, bring down its overall mean (which you used in your calculation). Remove those admission tips, many of those lower scoring applicants will not get in, and overall test scores (and gpa’s) will rise significantly (mean of instate kids). </p>
<p>So, what I’m suggesting is that one needs to compare applicant cohorts: untipped instate applicants vs. the OOS applicants (which, by definition, receive no admission tips).</p>
<p>I got 2050 OOS and got in. SAT scores don’t mean as much as you think they do.</p>