<p>While I don't like NYU for myself (I want more of a campus), it's level of selectivity makes it the ideal match for me. What other schools are at its level?</p>
<p>a good number. look at vanderbilt i guess. similar but…better? + more of a campus feel (i.e. while in a city undergrads live on campus all 4 years)</p>
<p>Colleges with student profiles similar to NYU:</p>
<p>1310 NYU SAT mid-point of 25/75 range</p>
<p>1340 W&M
1335 Boston Coll
1330 Case Western
1325 UC Berkeley
1325 U Virginia
1325 U Rochester
1323 Tulane
1320 Wake Forest
1320 Rensselaer
1315 Georgia Tech
1315 U Michigan
1310 Lehigh
1310 NYU
1295 UCLA
1295 U North Carolina
1295 Worcester
1285 George Washington
1280 U Maryland</p>
<p>67% NYU Top 10% students</p>
<p>72% U Florida
70% U Rochester
70% U Texas
68% Case Western
67% NYU
67% U Miami
66% Georgia Tech
65% George Washington
63% Wake Forest
62% Rensselaer
62% U Maryland</p>
<p>There you go again Hawkette…playing that silly SAT score game again. And using stats.</p>
<p>Let me give you another example of why I think its a fools errand to use average stats:</p>
<p>Elon University in North Carolina is getting a lot of excellent press. Its a rapidly rising star. A LOT of people from up north are applying and attending there. They could go elsewhere. Why? Its a gorgeous campus in the southern style which is almost a carbon copy of Furman, widely regarded as one of the most beautiful in the entire United States. Elon is a warm school…where administrators and professors treat their students with respect. Its a very healthy environment. They have a HUGE percentage who study overseas in such diverse places as Chile and the Galapagos Islands. Its not cut throat. Last year they had 25 students who CHOSE TO ATTEND Elon who had SAT scores above 1450. Many were also admitted to UNC, Duke, Wake, and even some Ivy League and small Ivy schools. They picked Elon.</p>
<p>For them, it was a perfect fit.</p>
<p>If people are posting here and asking us to rank schools by prestige and do their homework for them, I suggest we politely direct them to Barrons, Fiske, Princeton Review, Petersen’s directories to garner the basic facts and RANGES of SAT scores for a cursory and preliminary looksee to determine if they are a reach, match, or safety. I presume the original poster was trying to accomplish that. But I wont do their work for them. If they are smart enough to get into NYU they should be smart enough to determine what other schools fit their criteria for admission.</p>
<p>Fordham has its fair share of kids with very high scores as well. My D is dating someone on a full ride who could have gone anywhere…valedictorian of his class. Does it matter if Fordham has 57% or 61% or whatever the figure is from CDS of kids in the top 10% of their class? My D was top 15% but also took 9 AP course and is a National AP Scholar with Distinction scoring all 4’s and 5’s, she went to an extraordinarily competitive public high school where 95 of graduates are currently in four year colleges around the country, including SEVERAL at Ivy League schools, some at NYU and many at Duke and Davidson, Wake, UNC, Vanderbilt, WashU, Emory, etc. </p>
<p>My point? Dont feed the bears.</p>
<p>that is 95% of her high school classmates are presently in four year colleges.</p>
<p>friedokra: I don’t always agree with hawkette’s way of looking at things, but in this case the applicant ASKED about schools with similar stats, and explained why. Therefore, hawkette’s reply seems quite appropriate. Presumably the applicant can figure out which of hawkette’s list are personality fits, now that he/she has the list as a starting point.</p>
<p>friedokra,
The stats are the beginning of a college search. It gives someone an idea of the standard that is generally required for admission to a college with the caveat that there are always exceptions. </p>
<p>Listing the stats does not mean that fit is less important. I share your passion that fit should supersede data comparisons, but if a student performs at one level and the school’s typical requirements are at another level, then visiting a school and worrying about “fit” may be putting the cart before the horse.</p>
<p>I see nothing wrong with hawkette’s approach, but as she says, in this case, it won’t tell the whole story. Because of its location, NYU is more selective than its stats would make it seem. And depending on region, it can be difficult to be accepted at (LI girl). NYU is also NOT need blind and uses financial issues to rank admits. So, it is a unique case.</p>
<p>I would put USC as a school similar in its selectivity even if its stats are higher.</p>
<p>Well…it just sort of irks me that someone who is thinking of NYU and presumably has the stats to get in cant find out other schools with similar stats. That is silly. Even if they live in Mumbai India, they can search the web and find out. Princeton Review has all that stuff front and center for goodness sakes.</p>
<p>For that matter the number of schools that match NYU stats is HUGE…Kenyon has stats like NYU. Not that it matters much.</p>
<p>I know someone at NCState (Engineering) who scored high enough to get into Princeton.</p>
<p>What did WE do (my D and our family) last year? We did our homework on the web and we bought three directories and read them front to back. We made our list, we visited some schools, we filled in our apps and waited on results then visited the schools who accepted us (plus one wait list WashU) and then made our decision. Thankfully we did an excellent job and its a superb fit for her.</p>
<p>I wish the same result for everyone. Whether its NYU (we qualified but didnt apply, they were definitely recruiting my D big time…10 or more mailings from them, but ultimately it was too big and too urban…she wanted a different feel and campus)</p>
<p>And I am a tad grouchy today…lol.</p>
<p>I like the location: Coastal Village, Suffolk County.</p>
<p>“What did WE do (my D and our family) last year? We did our homework on the web and we bought three directories and read them front to back. We made our list, we visited some schools, we filled in our apps and waited on results then visited the schools who accepted us (plus one wait list WashU) and then made our decision. Thankfully we did an excellent job and its a superb fit for her.”</p>
<p>I found your use of “we” amusing (I’m a bit envious). I was lucky to help keep track of deadlines and pay for everything, including some college visits I didn’t get to go on.</p>
<p>ckmets13: I like your coastal village, too. Been in the park by the harbor many times, and have a friend who lives above stationery.</p>
<p>Some people like doing their own research (I’m one); some people like involving other people (like OP). It gives us all a chance to chat.</p>
<p>McGill has similar stats; similar urban location. Most often compared to NYU and Michigan. Great alternative.</p>