What schools can I transfer to?

<p>I'm currently at ASU, and am looking for a place that has a better reputation. The engineering school is decent, but I fear the stigma that is attached with ASU may hurt me later on when applying for jobs or graduate school.</p>

<p>I'm currently an industrial engineering major with a 3.62 GPA after my first semester. Going to bring it up to a 3.85 after this semester. However, my SAT and ACT scores are weak: 1740 SAT and 26 ACT. The first time around I wasn't taking them seriously at all, so I will retake them for better scores if need be.</p>

<p>What are schools that I'd have a shot at transfering to?</p>

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<p>That is awfully presumptuous. Nothing is a given.</p>

<p>That said, why do you get the impression that going to ASU would hurt your chances of a job or grad school?</p>

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<p>Sure isn’t. Just my estimate based on how things are going so far in terms of difficulty. I’ve been putting in a lot more effort this semester than my last, and a lack of effort was certainly what hurt me last semester. I often skipped classes and ended up having to withdraw from my C++ class. I could be completely thrown off when the first midterms roll out, however, so who knows. Sorry if I came off as arrogant.</p>

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<p>ASU has a lot of negative views due its high acceptance rate and party school status. I fear bias may come into play when looking over my applications.</p>

<p>It isn’t that you came off as arrogant, I just wanted to make sure that you can’t bank on acing everything to raise your GPA like that. There are always speed bumps along the way, and you rarely see them coming, so its better to assume you are applying with that 3.62, not a 3.85. If you hit the 3.85, then wonderful. You should apply to a few schools that would be a reach with a 3.62 but be a match with a 3.85 just in case you do pull it off, but you can’t neglect the lower ranked schools because you assume you will get that higher GPA. That was merely what I was trying to get you to think about. You know what they say about what happens when you assume things, right?</p>

<p>Anyway…</p>

<p>Many schools, especially state schools (UIUC, Ga Tech, Purdue) have high acceptance rates as well as top notch engineering reputations. That doesn’t hurt their ability to get jobs. Given, ASU is not quite at that level, but the same principle holds. Acceptance rates don’t mean that much. It has been discussed here ad nauseum how most engineering schools aside from, say, MIT or other HUGE named schools are self-selective, and there aren’t a ton of people who apply who are grossly underqualified like what happens at MIT. Therefore, most acceptance rates are artificially high. Really, no one will look at your school’s acceptance rate as a negative.</p>

<p>Party school status really doesn’t have a ton to do with job placement either. Wisconsin, for example, is known as a party school as well, yet it has excellent academic reputation. Just because the school parties a lot doesn’t mean an individual student did, and furthermore, most employers aren’t going to care if you partied in college (in fact most of your bosses probably partied in college too), they are going to care whether you know your stuff and can produce results for them.</p>

<p>Job placement and grad school placement really comes down to two things: your own personal performance in school such as GPA, extracurriculars, research, test scores (for grad school), and internships, and the academic reputation of your school (a much bigger factor for grad schools than most jobs). ASU, while not MIT, still has a respectable reputation in industry and academia.</p>

<p>If you want to transfer because YOU don’t like the party atmosphere, then go for it, I encourage it. You should go where you will feel most comfortable. But don’t think that employers are going to look at ASU and snicker about it, because they won’t. The party school and acceptance rates won’t even cross their mind. I am sure a co-worker or two might ask you about it later on down the road, but that’s about it. If you like ASU, then stay there.</p>

<p>Sorry for not addressing your original question. I thought it more important to address a few misconceptions you had. That said, your GPA (3.62) is actually quite good (higher than my overall undergrad GPA was and I am a Ph.D. student now). You don’t really have enough credits yet for a school to overlook your high school stats though, so the ACT/SAT scores may hurt you a bit there. I would say at the very least you could move laterally to a school of similar caliber. Depending on your major, you MAY be able to sneak into a Purdue or somewhere similar to that as well. I just don’t know how much individual schools will weight your high school stats vs. a very limited albeit good sample of college classes.</p>

<p>So how many float trips down the Salt River have you done so far?</p>

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<p>Things are often different for transfer vs. freshman applicants. GT does not consider SAT or HS GPA at all in transfer admissions, just College GPA and classes completed.</p>

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<p>It must vary by school then (not too big of a stretch of the imagination). UIUC still looks at high school for transfer students unless you have 60 credit hours I believe. I am not 100% on that number but I know there is a threshold like that.</p>

<p>Yes, every school is different.</p>

<p>For the 101st time…</p>

<p>If you make sure you that you have some knowledge in “high demand” areas, an I.E. degree from ASU will not matter. I got into friggn’ University of Wisconsin (ranked #15) graduate engineering program and didn’t even have a 3.0 GPA as an undergrad…PLUS I was a math major undergrad.</p>

<p>Unless you plan on getting into some funded research program at a Top-10 engineering school, some good work experience, a good GRE score and 2 or 3 graduate courses with a grade of “A” as a non-degree graduate student will get you into quite a few graduate engineering programs ranked #10 to #20 and employers also.</p>

<p>This is not the business industry where the first thing they ask you is “what was your B-School”. This is engineering where there are more job openings than available candidates.</p>

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<p>Thank you very much for those clarifications. I have a few questions, however. Let’s say I wanted to get into a top MBA program or a top engineering PhD program later on, how would I be affected due to my school? Would I have a shot at something like a Harvard MBA given my GPA, experience, recs are good?</p>

<p>if you want to go to grad school (research), the reputation of the school isn’t that big a deal. a professor at my school went to ASU as an undergrad and went to yale as an grad student.</p>

<p>and as others have said, you dont have enough credits for transfer as a full transfer. at your point, they will look at your hs record. if you are intent on transferring, you’ll probably have to wait until the next full admission cycle and apply for a spot in fall 2011. (vs. applying as a midyear and coming in spring 2011). most schools dont do the midyear application thingy. at that point, your undergrad record will be a big deal.</p>

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<p>As I’ve pointed out, that depends on the school. 30 credit hours (as long as you have certain key classes like Calculus) is all you need to transfer to GT, which does not consider high school records</p>

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<p>I had a professor who did his undergrad at the University of Toledo, M.S. at Cornell and Ph.D. at Princeton. ASU is certainly a more respected program than Toledo. You absolutely will be fine getting into grad school as long as your stats support it.</p>