<p>I am currently pursuing an associates (major: Business) at my local community college while working full-time in a Business Development position for a very well respected, internationally recognized company. My GPA when I graduate should be around a 3.75. I also work on the weekends doing business development and client building work for an entertainment company. My high school transcripts are not that great, and my SAT score was a 1250. I attended a 4-year private university for one year, got arrested and they suspended me. I never went back. Since then, I can honestly say I've been working hard, taking classes, and just striving to turn my life around. </p>
<p>I am looking, ultimately, to obtain an MBA, but obviously would like to attend a decent undergraduate business program. I was looking hard at Rutgers figuring that would be my best shot, but recently my friend informed me that he got into UPenn from another community college right by mine. He had a 3.5, lower SAT scores than I, works as a waiter, had 1 recommendation letter, he's not considered poverty (his dad is paying his entire educational costs) and I've personally been paying for mine/my loan from one year at the other university. Granted, he is looking at their Political Science program and not Business, and not every situation is the same - I still had a thought that I may be able to set my sights higher. </p>
<p>What do you guys think? Any suggestions?</p>
<p>I would LOVE to attend NYU or UPenn, but, I still don't think that is possible considering their Business Program is EXTREMELY competitive. What other schools would you suggest I look at?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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<p>(Edit: Will I have to submit my transcripts from the first University I attended? I know most likely, yes, but just wanted to check)</p>
<p>I would say that you have a shot at NYU. Their average GPA is like 3.75 but for Stern it might be closer to 3.85 or 3.9. Your SAT scores are below average but since your a sophomore they won’t matter as much. You have some strong ECs and it shows that you have great time management, working a full time and part time job. It may come down to your freshman year mishap. Do you know your specific major?</p>
<p>My freshmen year major was Criminal Justice. </p>
<p>Since I left that school, I have since been taking a Business Management and now Business Liberal Arts major (the Business-Liberal Arts major at the community college I attend is tailored to meet the Rutgers Business School standards). By looking at the NYU/UPenn requirements for entrance in the business school, as far as classes are required, I will be meeting/have met those requirements (Economics, Accounting, Calculus).</p>
<p>Unless you’re planning to be an accountant, studying business as an undergrad is unnecessary. The most elite business jobs hire from top colleges, and most of them do not offer business as a major. If you are planning on getting an MBA, being an undergrad business major would be redundant anyway. So go to the best school you can get into as an Econ or other major.</p>
<p>Getting into Wharton as a junior transfer from outside of Penn is very, very unlikely. Because it’s a 4 year program, it’s unlikely you’d even have the right prereqs. And as you have not great grades from your first college, which you do have to submit, and a well below average SAT score for the program, it’s not going to happen.</p>
<p>I suggest applying widely. I would throw in Cornell, a very transfer friendly school, as a reach.</p>
<p>You certainly have a great GPA and EC’s but aside from that your background history may cost you. UPenn Wharton is a longshot but it’s still worth a chance in applying. As for transferring, as long as you finished your prereqs and have the sufficient amount of units (not wayyy above it) then you should be alright.</p>
<p>Yes, you have to submit that ugly old transcript. But don’t sweat it because now that you have found your true calling in business, you are earning the grades that you are capable of, and you have gained meaningful work experience in your career field.</p>
<p>As to where to transfer, I’d recommend that you look at the better undergraduate business programs. Maybe Babson? Also, do either of your employers offer tuition payment as a company benefit? If so, you may want to focus on colleges/universities within commuting distance so that you can go to school on the company’s dime instead of your own.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice. What other majors would you suggest that would be beneficial/worthwhile when applying to an MBA program at a good grad school? When I spoke with a counselor at Rutgers they told me that I would be better off transferring to Rutgers Business School (undergrad) if I was ultimately looking for an MBA, rather than pursuing a different major at one of their other schools. However, I have heard what you are saying to be true as well. But, I feel as though all the credits I am taking now would be hard to transfer to a non-business related bachelors? Also - funny that you suggest Cornell as my brother graduated from there with a bachelors and masters in electrical engineering.</p>
<p>Going along the lines of what you are saying though- I would assume it would be easier to transfer to one of the non-business schools @ UPenn, NYU, etc and then upon completion of my bachelors, apply to the MBA program at one of these institutions?</p>
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<p>One of my employers does offer tuition reimbursement up to around $5500 a year. However, I would like to go to school full-time when I transfer as I’ll have more than 2+ years of good work experience and want to start moving a little faster as far as my degree is concerned.</p>
<p>You will need several years of business experience before applying for an MBA program if you’re shooting for a top one. It’s unclear from your first post if the experience you have is of the level to help get you into a good MBA program right after college. A top MBA program is worth holding out for. Especially as you seem to be getting a good handle on academics as you go.</p>
<p>Knowing your career goals would be helpful in giving anymore advice. Non Wharton Penn could be a good option as you can still take most all the Wharton classes you want. Your problem there is going to be your SAT score even if they are willing to overlook your first college. It’s probably too late to retake for transferring this year but I’m not sure. Is your friend a minority? I’ve interviewed for Penn for 25 years and have only seen URM’s get in with his stats.</p>
<p>What is the GPA from the first college? Do you just have 1 year at the CC?</p>
<p>MBA admissions is a lot tougher to get into.</p>
<p>GMAT, Resume, all college transcripts, letter of recommendation(s), interview, and background check is required.</p>
<p>My brothers both attend prestigous MBA universities (Anderson, UCLA and Marshall, USC) and from their experience they’ve told me that where you went to college really matters when factoring in your college GPA to gain admissions to the MBA schools.</p>
<p>You may want to look into some of the undergrad business programs at some of the top state schools too. They’re usually looked at very highly when applying to MBA universities, and many of them tend to be more transfer friendly.</p>
<p>The GPA from my first college was a 2.5, and I have been attending the CC part time, but I will be finishing my associates in December. You bring up a good point of the years of work experience to get into a highly ranked MBA program. Although I do have good work experience at a non-entry level position, it is not a managerial position. </p>
<p>I think the route you are describing, as others have, would be the best to go - apply to UPenn/NYU/other good schools, but not to their business programs? After that, work in a business environment and then apply to a MBA program? </p>
<p>Or would redsoxgirl’s advice be more beneficial? </p>
<p>I think that is my main concern at this point. Should I apply to undergrad business programs at say schools like Rutgers, Boston University? Or, apply to schools with higher name recognition but not enter into their business programs?</p>
<p>Hi,I am an international Applicant and here are my situations.Someone please help:</p>
<p>1)Due to some unforeseeable reasons and VISA problems, though i was selected for the elite engineering schools in USA, it happened that i have to choose Historically Black Colleges for my undergraduates.Bear in mind that i am an international student from Asia and not a Black one.I opted for the tier 3 HBCU due to finance reason.I do have other colleges in hand .But here are my questions:</p>
<p>****I plan to transfer to a very good college after my one year(two semesters) in HBCU.So i would like to ask “Do the transfer int’l applicants from HBCU or unranked or tier 3 colleges have chances for admission in Top schools or Top Liberal Arts Colleges with good financial aid?”</p>
<p>“Are there any course or exams for me so that i can earn maximum credits in transfer?”</p>
<p>“i have to choose Historically Black Colleges for my undergraduates.Bear in mind that i am an international student from Asia and not a Black one.”</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>Seriously though, I would have to say that they’ll look at it but they might just pass you off. Financial aid is extremely tough to come by when you are trying to transfer during theses times and to a really well-known school (I’m assuming Ivy League). So to sum it all up, I would say your chances are extremely slim.</p>
<p>I will be, interesting situation! Actually, the HBCU’s have some of the best recruiting for business jobs out there aside for the very top colleges. Employers flock there to meet diversity needs. Finding an Asian student at one may work for employers too. Not sure I’d leave there for anything less than a very top school. Understand it will be very hard to get as an international transfer outside of the few schools that meet need for internationals.</p>
<p>Kingston, if you PM me the details such as school attended first, how the GPA broke out, goals, etc, I’d be happy to give you input.</p>