What Tests should I take?

<p>I am ending my junior year with Rose Hulman as my number one choice. Is there anything that can help you get a scholarship there such as taking more tests? Do you need to take SAT IIs in order to get admitted to Rose Hulman, and if you don't, how much does it help you out to take these tests?</p>

<p>Also, I have only taken the ACT, and I did pretty good. Do I have to take the SAT also? </p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>hi dbt124,</p>

<p>Every one who applies is automatically considered for scholarship based on his/her merits.</p>

<p>Basically, you don't need SAT IIs. Officially, they don't consider that for admission.</p>

<p>My suggestion is, if you wanna get a scholarship, the best way is to score 36 or 2400 on your ACT, or SAT respectively. </p>

<p>Personally, I scored a 800 on SAT's maths, but because my SAT verbal sucks, I don't get as much scholarship.</p>

<p>Besides, don't expect to get much finaids from RHIT. Although they do give me scholarship, there's virtually no need based aid.......</p>

<p>Though it's probably too late now, the most helpful thing you can do is take and score 4's on a bunch of AP tests, since that will benefit you the most in my mind. You may stay 4 years, but you can get out with a double major in the time/cost it takes someone else to get one. I didn't manage that, though I wish.</p>

<p>I think aiming for perfect on either test for aid is a lofty goal. How well did you do on the ACTs? How much do you really care about aid? Are you doing it because you NEED it or are you just hoping to soften the financial blow? If it's the latter then I would just apply for other scholarships. There are state specific ones, ones for engineering/science, and just general scholarships open to anyone. I think these would have a better chance, since what exactly would make Rose give you more aid is really a game of chance. Applying for outside scholarships is just allowing for more chances.</p>

<p>That said, I had a 3.5 GPA in High School, 30 Cum. ACT, 1920 SAT (you only need one test), 1 extra curricular. I'm far from impressive round these parts, but at Rose I got in easily enough (I guess you can say that is an advantage of going to a somewhat obscure/specific-major school, since the acceptance rate is double schools with similar student stat profiles). I got $7,000 in merit aid (a wee bit more than the avg), but didn't bother applying for need based which I think is where they are more generous.</p>

<p>Summary: I don't think there is much you can do to boost your aid, it's just a wait-and-see matter. I'd suggest filling out the FASFA and applying for need based aid (even if you can pay for college, it's worth a shot and you can turn down their loans if you don't want/need them) and see what you get for merit based aid. For an extra bump in scholarships I would look outside the school for ones you can apply to. Obviously if you do better on the standardized tests, do charity work, or won some great high school science award it could help you get more aid, but it's really a guessing game what will bring the most or how much it would be.</p>

<p>yeah, you can already get scholarship if you score 1920. But my point is, you can get more if you score on your SAT more. Personally, I already have 4.0 GPA, but my SAT is only 2100ish, and I get 10K. I think if you can score 2200+, I am sure you can easily get 15K+ in scholarship.....</p>

<p>That's my point though, he's already taken the ACT's and done well, but we have no idea how much more money he would get by doing "better". 100 points on the SAT doesn't necessarily translate to 5k, so he could go for making himself an all around stronger candidate, but it's impossible to tell him what to do that would help him the most in terms of financial aid. You got a 4.0 and 2100ish, so you had me beat in both GPA and SAT's by a fair bit (enough to be considered 100 points, right?), but you only got 3k more than me. What's to say 2200 is a magic number to get him 5k more than you?</p>

<p>dbt124, if you think you can do better on the ACT if you took it again then I guess it couldn't hurt really. I doubt as if SAT II's or the like would garner more merit aid. By Junior year your GPA is pretty well set. So with that all, I'd say look at outside scholarships if you want more.</p>

<p>Rose also considers extracurricular activities and community service/involvement, and since most students do very well academically, other activities might help set you apart.</p>

<p>As JohnWillkins said, take all the AP tests you can. You can get credit for most of your humanities if you get 4 or 5 on the tests. Taking AP Calc will get you a quarter ahead of other students. This won't help with scholarships but you could graduate a quarter early or get a double major.</p>

<p>John Wilkins, I am an international..... that's why I get less than I should...</p>

<p>However, I still think SAT is very important way to distinguish yourself, since I'd guess VERY few people at RHIT can score 2200+.</p>

<p>btw, I wasn't emphasizing AP, since I would be surprised if you get a 2200+ but a poor GPA..... Usually it's the other way around for most people.....</p>

<p>uhhh jackwang, most people I know at Rose did very well on all the aspects of the SAT. I guess you're assuming that Rose people all get 800's on the SAT math part and 500 on the writing and verbal because we're all a bunch of engineer nerds. I think Rose students are better rounded than many liberal arts students because not only do we have an understanding of math and science, but we also have a wide range of people who are very smart in all the other areas too. You can't say the same about liberal arts majors. I know some of them who can barely work a calculator and have a 5th grade understanding of science. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just I hate when people describe Rose students and engineers in general as one dimensional. Most engineers just are smart enough that not only do they get the engineering stuff, but they also understand history, literature, and foreign languages.</p>

<p>well, nic, I am just looking at the Stats of 2007 incoming class. The median reading score is like 630, and 670 for maths.</p>

<p>Yeah, I know these scores are already considered well for you non-Asians (joking). But I am just pointing out that the OP can get a lot more scholarship if she can score up to 2200+, since to be honest, probably only 10% at Rose achieves this feat, as it's a score showing 700+ both in maths AND reading. It's really a way to DISTINGUISH yourself. For any other tougher schools, in fact, SAT is like a filter. You may have some great ECs, but if your SAT sucks too much, then... you get my point. :-P</p>

<p>I remember this kid on CC who said he got 21000 scholarship merit based from Rose, and he sure has a super high SAT (2300+).</p>

<p>Btw, I don't score 500 on writing and verbal (lol...) Both in the low 600s....</p>

<p>hey everyone, thanks for helping me out.</p>

<p>Anyway, I think I am going to take a couple SAT IIs and retake the ACT. I already take AP Chem and Calc, so I will probably just take the chemistry one and the math one. Do any of you know the minimum ACT that you need to get a fairly decent scholarship?</p>

<p>As far as Rose, in order to go i would have to get a really big scholarship considering I could just go to my big state school for a lot cheaper. I took the ACTs once and did ok with a 30 overall with a 36 math. I think I might have a chance for some money because I have a 3.8 and have a lot of interest in engineering. (VP of Robotics Team, went to a womens engineering camp last summer, mentor middle school robotics team)</p>

<p>As for money, I definitely cannot afford the 50,000 dollar a year cost. I am going to get a better job this summer than the one I have now, so that will probably help me be able to pay more.</p>

<p>Also, what is the most amount of money you have heard of people getting? Do most people get around 10,000? Are there jobs on campus there to help with the cost?</p>

<p>Again, thanks for the help.</p>

<p>I said, with your current stats, you will at least get some scholarships, but I am not sure how much, since I am not familiar with ACT.</p>

<p>My advice is, judge which one you are best at, ACT, or SAT. Pick one and keep practicing it until you can get your highest score possible, since it will only help!</p>

<p>secondly, maintain your high GPA.</p>

<p>I'd say your ECs are already good enough, focus on making your numeric stats as stellar as possible.</p>

<p>The above is only for merit based scholarship.</p>

<p>RHIT will evaluate your financial situation and give you need based aids if possible...</p>

<p>I'd say, you have no problem getting AT LEAST 10000 dollars, since you are a girl and American.</p>

<p>If it helps at all, Rose gave me 12000 in merit and a bunch of loans. I had 2350 superscored, 800s in SAT I Math and Math II. Never took the ACT. My GPA or ECs weren't as impressive though.</p>

<p>Jack makes a good point too - I agree that being a girl helps at least a little bit.</p>

<p>Wow, ohnocllegeapps, I guess RHIT will be very happy in having you. :)</p>

<p>As far as what is typical for scholarships and need-based aid, I recently found these statistics from the 2007-08 freshman class:</p>

<p>Of the 474 freshman, 71% were determined to have financial need and were awarded need-based aid. The average grant and scholarship award was $17,652, meeting 88% of students need.</p>

<p>128 freshman received merit based grants and scholarships with an average award of $8708. This only includes scholarships given by the school.</p>

<p>Hmm, this is an old thread...</p>

<p>I'm really interested in RHIT, but since I've read they don't give a lot of need-based money, I'm counting on the merit scholarship. If I have a 3.9+ GPA (top 5%) and 2280 on SAT (730CR, 800M, 750W), would I have a good chance for a lot of scholarship money? I'm just a little worried because I didn't submit an essay... I hope that won't count against me.</p>

<p>I got a 28 on my ACT and I had a 3.867 GPA. (TONS of extracurriculars) I got 8,000 a year. Hope this helps a little.</p>

<p>It's impossible to say how much you'll get, but I'd say you have a very good chance of getting some merit-based aid. I don't think not submitting an essay will hurt you. I don't know anyone who did write an essay, but I do know several people who received aid.</p>

<p>I'd really like to go to Rose-Hulman. However, my parents would like me to go to Hesston College or another Mennonite college. So pretty much me going to Rose next year depends on how affordable it is.
I've got a 4.0 gpa. I go to a school that doesn't have AP or honors, so I'm ranked #1 along with a few other people who also have a 4.0.
I've got a 33 act with 32 english, 35 math, 36 reading, 30 science.
I've been on varsity tennis since my freshman year. And I've played basketball since my freshman year, being on varsity my junior year. Do they care about accomplishments within extra curricular activities?
Other extra curriculars include FBLA and participating in the Ham radio club at Hesston College. It's actually kind of funny because we beat other schools like MIT and sometimes Stanford in these Ham radio competitions, although Stanford did beat us this year. At what point do you not really qualify for anything as far as need based goes?</p>