<p>I got two letters now from the President of the University and it says that I should consider applying to Umich-Flint and Umich-Dearborn. THese letters were dated April 25, 2006, after I put myself on the waitlist. So does that mean I should give up on the waitlist?? </p>
<p>I don't understand what's going on here!</p>
<p>most likely.....give up on the waitlist and go somewhere else or go to UM Dearborn/Flint and transfer after a year....</p>
<p>Are you from Michigan?</p>
<p>Yes...I'm from Michigan.</p>
<p>I got both of those letters too. I'm in-state as well.</p>
<p>All the people on this site that have gotten in off the waitlist have been OOS.</p>
<p>An interesting insight I hadn't considered, A2wolves</p>
<p>People That Have Recieved Those Letters--------------> Please Read!!!!</p>
<p>You are still on the waitlist, according to my reviewing counselor!!</p>
<p>All the kids that are in my class who were waitlisted got both those letters too. That's what they're doing with the waitlist. Taking the out-of-state money, and sending the in-staters to the commuter campuses.</p>
<p>Taking the OOS $$$--UM would never do that. LOL</p>
<p>Hey, watch your back, Barrons...LOL!! I've been conveying some untidy realities about our recent experience with the U over on another thread and the humorless idealists have been on the warpath. I chuckled at your cynical post, but the defensive, antagonistic types are crawling all over the Michigan forums.:eek:</p>
<p>It wouldn't surprise me if they favored OOS in a game of toss-up for who gets in off of the waitlist. Personally, I think the "outsiders" make for a better college experience. Its not that much different than a kid's choice of college being influenced by financial aid. Sure, it's harder to picture a large faceless university as being "needy" as opposed to a family, but it's roughly the same principle.</p>
<p> hinks this was a much better post before I took out the fun antagonizing stuff
\confused about how I could possibly be considered a humorless idealist, if directed at me
\ hinks this forum needs more slashies</p>
<p>Sweet. I was called both an outsider and a humorless idealist in two consecutive posts, but I think they're both kinda cute, so i'll accept them willingly. There are like a billion scenarios I could imagine why Michigan would take OOS people off the waitlist but not in-staters:
1) Like dilksy said, maybe they just have two equally qualified students, so they're taking the one who pays more (both literally and figuratively, because like dilksy said, they make for a better college experience)
2) Maybe Lansing is already satisfied with the amount of in-staters accepted, so Umich is going for the likely more-qualified pool to round out its class
3) hoedown has made it pretty clear that OOSers and ISers are considered separately, so maybe IS yield was a bit higher than expected while OOS yield was a bit lower (not surprising considering the cost for OOSers. I personally know over a dozen of students from my HS that have turned down michigan purely because of expenses in the past two years)</p>
<p>chibears has it right with #3.</p>
<p>They set targets way back when. </p>
<p>When in-state deposits are not meeting the in-state target, they take in-state students from the waitlist. When the nonresident deposits aren't meeting targets, they take nonresidents from the waitlist. When Engineering deposits aren't meeting engineering targets, they take engineering students from the waitlist. And so on.</p>
<p>It's not a matter of "Hey, the class is looking small....let's go to the people who pay more." </p>
<p>Michigan is looking to meet targets they set earlier in the cycle.</p>
<p>I've heard financial aid plays a part in who gets off the waitlist, as in those who do not need any are more likely to get in because most of the aid supply has been exhausted already. Is it true?</p>
<p>Not so far, no.</p>
<p>Maybe in prior years that has been true (I don't know), but not this year.</p>
<p>I thought that my chances were supposed to be increased because i'm in-state? Are we not paying taxes in Michigan?</p>
<p>In-staters already get a significant advantage for admission. If they have gotten their 2/3 of the class filled, then that is the end of this year's in-state advantage.</p>
<p>Matthew is correct, A2Wolves. Generally speaking, your chances as a resident student are better than those of a nonresident. That's true for two reasons. </p>
<p>First of all, Michigan holds spaces for many more residents than non-residents. This is not news--check the residency percentages for undergrads. Undergrads make up a larger proportion of the student body.</p>
<p>Second of all, the competition for those resident spaces is less. There are fewer applicants for every resident spot than there are for the nonresident spots. </p>
<p>It is fallacious reasoning to conclude that because you, a resident, were not admitted, that means that residents don't have an increased chance of admission.</p>
<p>Being a taxpayer in the state of Michigan doesn't really make a difference--it's a broader definition of residency, not simply tax status, that determines whether you are a "resident" who benefits from the in-state advantage or not. U-M doesn't look to determine what amount of taxes you or your family paid when they make evaluations or admit decisions. By default, most Michigan taxpayers are, indeed, residents who benefit from the in-state advantage. But I'd expect there are residents who pay no state income taxes (low-income, with tax credits and other exemptions adding up) and they are treated no differently.</p>
<p>I think it's fallacious to conclude that my residency is giving me an advantage at this point in the admissions stage. Everyone who has been admitted off the waitlist to my knowledge has been an out-of-state student. So how right now, you can conclude that I have an advantage in the admissions process, is beyond me. </p>
<p>I'm being discriminated against once again. First, it's because I applied to a school full of jocks where athletes are the first priority in filling the class. Then, trying to get the minorities, and students to get their "well rounded" class percentages up. And now, trying to get the out-of-state percentages up to get their desired class. What exactly is their "desired class"? </p>
<p>What ever happened to giving preference to the students who WANT to go there? The ones that applied early, who have their family as alumni, who's parents have donated and worked for the U, who's cousins attend there? Is that not important anymore, it's all about getting those percentages up so they can attract even more ivy-league rejects? </p>
<p>The duty of a public school is to serve the students of the state. That's not what Michigan is doing by taking all out-of-state students to fill percentages. </p>
<p>Yet when after you call the admissions office, and they tell you that they "are taking the most qualified students off the waitlist". If so, wouldn't that go against what you are saying? I'm being lied to by someone here.</p>
<p>I'm really trying to be partial here. I'm not the only one who is in this situation. I'm in a class with 2 others who feel the EXACT same as me, I see posts of other parents crying foul as well. I've been patient. I submitted my application back in September, and today, 227 days later, i'm still sitting here hoping for SOME sort of glimpse of response from the university. It's just been "well, we'll see... just keep waiting...". I hate walking through the hallways with students saying "I'm going to Michigan", and then going up to me and saying "How didn't you get in? You're smarter than me!"</p>
<p>I don't know why i'm wasting my time with this university. It's heading in the wrong direction and becoming a completely different university than the one's many students parent's were once a part of. I've just had such a terrible experience with this application process.</p>
<p>I understand where you're coming from A2Wolves6. University admissions can be a crazy (and stressful!) process for everyone involved. Even if worse comes to worse and you don't get into Michigan this year, one of the hardest years to get in <em>ever</em>, it's not the end of the world. Although statistically, next year should be even harder (same limited number of seats, ever-better freshmen class) there's always a chance at transferring if you must go to U-M.</p>