What the Hell is Going On? HELP.

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<p>@art2CS: Thanks, you’ve made your point. No matter how many times someone can tell you to stand up, wipe the drool of your face, and inch that damn foot forward…it never really takes effect. Until - like you say - you’re around 30 years old, and you realize those people who once encouraged you to inch forward are now retired with eyes and ears crusted shut. </p>

<p>I’m curious to know what your situation was/is. Helping college shmucks on here is giving you some sort of supplimental satisfaction? Maybe? It sounds like you’re accusing me of thinking ‘useless crap’ …when you might be too. What’s the use in painfully awaiting the arrival of a time machine?</p>

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<p>Demetra, I am sick of you.</p>

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<p>Demetra, I really like you.</p>

<p>How do you other people not understand what she is saying? She doesn’t want to short change herself. She isn’t interested in trading a quality education for a “career”. Thats noble, not foolish. We’re too eager to trade our great commodity, time, into cash and for some reason, we think a college diploma will do this.</p>

<p>Anywho, I’m not here to argue or really contribute to this conversation for the nay-sayers. Just wanted to let you know, OP, that you aren’t the only “crazy” one. I’m an English major. </p>

<p>Stick to your gut and ignore what people on an online college forum think. </p>

<p>And I don’t really understand art2CS’s fixation on child soldiers…</p>

<p>The cynicism is this thread is making me queasy- I’m leaving.</p>

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<p>Art2CS: “What’s marketable and in demand in society, that you don’t find sucky and boring?”</p>

<p>Oh jesus, cannot wait to begin my life of not sucky-ness and boring-ness. The real American Dream, huh?</p>

<p>Dream a littttttle bit bigger, Demetra. Please.</p>

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<p>Yeah, an English major opposing the status quo and promoting the notion of “dreaming big” as opposed to studying something useful for career purposes… well, good luck to you, because unless your BA is merely a stepping stone to more “marketable” things, you’ll likely need all the luck you can get.</p>

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<p>@HopingToXfer: I laud you for your belligerent contribution to this thread; you’re so bold, so clad with charm. Your anonymity has such a warming effect on you, doesn’t it? No need to feel embarassed of an unsupported claim! I’m bored, you’re bored - let’s both shut up. Why do I even care .</p>

<p>@fran2thelamp: Thank you, It’s refreshing to hear from someone who is not obsessed with marketability, transferrable skills, and idk… money? Yeah, this thread is a little blemished…plenty of people are irritated at youth for being indecisive and asking for help. </p>

<p>I really appreciate your encouragement! I hope your major is satisfactory, and I hope you never have to say “yeah, I can wipe my ass with my degree…and that’s pretty much it” . Even if it doesn’t lead into a profitable career, atleast you won’t be betraying yourself for eight hours a day- commiting yourself to unfulfilling work. Best of luck!</p>

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<p>If you’re confusing obsession with money with a frank realization of its practical necessity and the pursuit of an academic degree to facilitate addressing it, maybe a backpacking excursion through the Indian subcontinent isn’t such a bad idea. </p>

<p>Oh, and the concepts of making money and achieving personal fulfillment aren’t mutually exclusive.</p>

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<p>@art2CS:
I’m not confusing one with the other, they are essentially the same thing. But for your sake…maybe the word I used was too…abrasive? I’m saying that money dictates all the choices you’ve made (although, sticking around this thread is a bit surprising…what are you trying to defend? Where’s your monetary reward in this?) …and I consider that a form of worship or obsession, or ‘frank realization of its practical necessity’. I think about money all of the time and it hasn’t done anything to help me choose a degree to facilitate addressing the neccesity. In fact, it’s impaired my decision making skills. What is the point in insulting me? Have I somehow offended you? And I never said they were mutually exclusive, I may have implied it, but it wasn’t a sweeping universal claim…just a possible scenario. why u cranky…no wait that’s me.</p>

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<p>I asked you those questions to get a general idea what you are good at or interested in. I believe art2CS was saying to major in something of your interest, that is in demand, and useful in life. The way I chose my majors (comp sci/applied math) is based on having job opportunities in different fields and interacting with different people. I can do: business, mathematical research, engineering, teaching/tutoring, game design, assisting in a lab, study abroad, and get a PHD/MBA/Masters. I don’t know what to do after college, but I know what I’m interested (my majors). art2CS’ point is not just about the money, it’s being able to do something that will make you happy, keep you employed for a long time, learn new things, apply your knowledge to everyday life, and not be stuck in life questioning if you majored in the wrong thing. Major in something useful and versatile that will make you happy.</p>

<p>I think people are tired of you because you come off as arrogant and I quote: </p>

<p>“I sincereley appreciate the depth of your response. I think you gave an exemplary reason to go to comm.coll. by using yourself as a spectacle. However, there is no overhwelming pressure for me to finish in two years. I didn’t make it clear I guess; I just want to get the hell out of this town, this school. I am not being challenged, the students here are crawling with mediocrity (none of them know what hard work is), and I feel when I am 24 and a sophmore at a 4-year…I will feel isolated from other students. I already feel isolated enough at CC, and it’ll probably be inevitable to feel the same when I transfer…so why wait 2 more years to make it even worse?”</p>

<p>FYI: It takes some people three years of community college, especially people who are doing math and science. I believe you should take three years because you obviously don’t know what to do with your life. Also, you should try being nicer to people on this forum. Everyone who commented here tried to respect, but you are either ignore them, or pick a fight with them.</p>

<p>On another note, maybe if you changed your attitude and outlook on life, you will have more friends at your CC. I made a lot of my friends at my CC because I engage in conversations with them in and outside class. On top of that, don’t blame other people for feeling alienated or alone. If I feel alone, I try to get know new people. If I see someone sitting and eating alone in the cafeteria, I make the effort to make conversation with them. It sounds like you are one of those who feels like people should make the effort to come to you than the other way around. You sound like you feel too good for CC and everyone is below you. Like at any other college, you will have smart people, slackers, people who are in-between, and all over the spectrum, but you should respect everyone learning level. Some people didn’t have great teachers in high school or were poorly advising. Also, some people who have been out of school for awhile and want to go back to school, but forgot important information. I think you have been really disrespectful to people on this forum.</p>

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<p>I’m not insulting you - I’m merely pointing out that if you do not make the potential to earn money a primary consideration when deciding what to study in college, you’re a fool. If you want to learn stuff purely for the sake of learning stuff and expanding your mind or whatever, go read a book.</p>

<p>Obviously you have no clue what you’d like to study to begin with, so I’ve been suggesting you consider the career opportunities of all available fields of study, as I think we can both agree you’ll eventually need to earn money. If that constitutes an obsession to which one is rendered a mindless drone to you, I believe there are still several robust agrarian communes in the pacific northwest and upstate New York you can apply to.</p>

<p>And honestly, I’ve stuck around because you strike me as someone not genuinely seeking advice, but a pseudo-soapbox on which you can espouse the virtues of your convictions - and I always enjoy a healthy debate, whether there’s a cash prize in the end or not.</p>

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<p>Its okay to major in something you are passionate instead of something practical but since the OP has made it clear he/she doesn’t have a subject they’re passionate about, then it just makes sense to pick the most practical degree. Aka, pick something stem or something else that feeds directly into the job market (social work, nursing, teaching) that you’ll be able to maintain the highest gpa in.</p>

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<p>@suprafreshkid: Good lord I really did come off as arrogant - or do*. I guess refuting that claim would only solidify your beliefs… but I feel that you misunderstood a few things. I didn’t answer your questions because it wouldn’t have been constructive - lot’s of those I don’t have answers to. And that you’ve probably realized. And I think you got a little irked because you fall into the category of someone I ignored. I didn’t mean to ignore you, I was just afraid to reply to those questions that probs wouldn’t have gone anywhere. </p>

<p>Also, it’s hard to make friends when you feel disoriented and paltry . But I guess that makes me come off as petulant. So, you’re right about the attitude/perspective…but you’re wrong about me expecting to be approached by others. There’s this issue of time, I spend so little of it at college - and it’s strictly for studying/going to class. During those times, I stay very focused on my schoolwork due to the constant time-crunch…and have been appalled by the study habits of many others. But that’s reality…it doesn’t mean I think I’m better, or above them - it was just something that was bringing me down. </p>

<p>This post is so defensive, but you’ve conceptualized me into such an awful person. I apologize for irritating you and others that you claim I have disrespected. Happy national hug day.</p>

<p>@art2CS: That hurt. The white flag rises.</p>

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<p>Sorry, but I really don’t mean to come across as acerbic and mean. I simply recall thinking almost exactly the same way when I was younger, and have had to learn the hard way that ideal circumstances are usually few and far between. Had I gone along with the program and listened to my parents, I wouldn’t be working a full time job with the ever present menace of an impending mortgage payment while trying to finish school at 30+ years of age. </p>

<p>I’ve actually been very fortunate, but if my time machine was finally functional, I would go back and beat the living hell out of my 18 year old self, imploring me/him (after several savage elbows to the face) to study something useful, worry about landing a decent job, and pursue my completely impractical aspirations in art on the side. Would’ve made life much, much easier. </p>

<p>Obviously you’re a bright person, and you’re at the cusp of essentially the rest of your life - don’t let the opportunity pass you by, because it can be incredibly hard to make your way back. And if you do choose to pursue a field of study with abysmal career prospects in defiance of the status quo, then good luck to you, and hopefully you won’t be attempting a second B.S. when you’re over 30 and fending off a mountain of debt.</p>

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<p>art2CS, you weren’t coming off as mean so you shouldn’t apologized for that.</p>

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<p>@suprafreshkid: what is your purpose in auditing this thread ? Stop being oversensitive. You started of well - you had an issue, and addressed it. Now that I’ve responded to you, you childishly chose the position of a sycophant. How does it smell?</p>

<p>@art2CS:Thank you for all of your honesty. I admire your willingness to help others who may be going down the same path, so thanks for the bludgeoning…I’m awake now.</p>

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<p>LOL you are so full of yourself</p>

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<p>Sorry but I have to agree with supra, it’s irritating to read your posts. Your writing style is incredibly pretentious and you give off a holier than thou, elitist attitude and i’m a philosophy major! Speaking of… philosophy would be right up your alley, you sound just like Nietzsche. Hah</p>

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<p>Yea I agree w/ supra and andrew… you sound more emotional than dramatic my chem prof. No offense.</p>

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<p>Demetra, have you thought about what UC you would like to attend?</p>

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<p>Demetra, there is so much I want to write back to you, I wouldn’t even know where to begin. I agree with pretty much everything you’ve written, and I’ll post later with a quality response to what you’ve said. </p>

<p>Oh, and if Berkeley is on your radar and you’re admitted, enjoy your time there. I have a feeling you’d love it.</p>