<p>Where are the links and what is the NRC?</p>
<p>Pics or it didnt happen.</p>
<p>^ I’m pretty sure that little saying would apply to everything that you’ve said then.</p>
<p>No, im just saying that for every ranking that says that Cornell has a great program, I can find 10 that say Dartmouth or Brown do.</p>
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<p>I would argue that there are no weak ivies and that each school should be evaluated on its own merits</p>
<p>Each ivy league school is unique. Cornell provides the largest array of major selections. Being that it is the largest ivy school, therefore it is the reason in the largest acceptance rate. Again get over the rankings and look at what the school really offers…</p>
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A simple Google search provides that information. </p>
<p>The National Research Council (NRC) functions under the auspices of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), the National Academy of Engineering (NAE), and the Institute of Medicine (IOM). The NAS, NAE, IOM, and NRC are part of a private, nonprofit institution that provides science, technology and health policy advice under a congressional charter signed by President Abraham Lincoln that was originally granted to the NAS in 1863. Under this charter, the NRC was established in 1916, the NAE in 1964, and the IOM in 1970. The four organizations are collectively referred to as the National Academies.</p>
<p>The NRC ranks programs every 10 years or so, and those rankings are the most comprehensive and respected of the various discipline rankings. Regardless of whether or not one trusts the rankings, complete ignorance of them is indicative of unfamiliarity with the workings of academia. </p>
<p>[NRC</a> Rankings](<a href=“http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc1.html]NRC”>NRC Rankings)</p>
<p>Since it seems some are so consumed with statistics…</p>
<p>Nobel Laureates…</p>
<ol>
<li>Columbia 97</li>
<li>Harvard 74</li>
<li>Yale 49</li>
<li>Cornell 42</li>
<li>Princeton 32</li>
<li>Penn 27</li>
<li>Brown 7</li>
<li>Dartmouth 3</li>
</ol>
<p>Gourman is better. And puts Dartmouth and Brown higher than CornHELL.</p>
<p>Last I checked, Gourman hasn’t been updated in years… Nor do I know of the exact breakdowns of %s. So for you to assert that it’s better than NRC is foolish. Your statement “pics or didn’t happen” (how very linguistically competent of you) is applicable here. As if I were to ask for numerical breakdowns as to WHY X is higher than Z, you can’t provide them. Last I checked also, Cornell is a top school and is world renown for many fields. My recommendation to you? Don’t belittle a school that you don’t even know you can get into.
Cheers. =)</p>
<p>I like warblersrule86’s NRC ranking even though it’s not recent (published in 1993 I believe). Otherwise, TOSU should have a shot at making the top-10 list on Average of all 41 scores. </p>
<p>Based on the ranking provided, Ohio State currently tied with Michigan and Wisconsin at #2, only behind #1 Stanford, and ahead of Berkeley, Cornell, Harvard, Yale, Columbia and Chicago on Number of rated programs. Also, ahead of Duke, Johns Hopkins, MIT and Northwestern on Average of all 41 scores. Go Bucks!! lol</p>
<p>It’s difficult to compare Cornell to the rest of the schools because it’s larger, strong athletically, and voluntarily less selective. Trying to slander its credibility doesn’t accomplish anything. </p>
<p>Personally, I think it, Cornell, simply ranks too highly and performs too well in such a wide array of areas to be deemed the weakest Ivy. Again though, if it wasn’t for all of these schools given the Ivy label, there is absolutely no way you’re comparing Dartmouth or Brown to Cornell. That’s not taking away anything from any of the schools, they just don’t have that much in common and their “missions” are not the same.</p>
<p>Getting into an ivy is much easier said than done. Everybody who gets into these schools is deserving and there is no sense in degrading any of the schools. That being said if the ivy league were to add another school, I think Georgetown would be a good fit. Just has the ivy feel, haha.</p>
<p>Gourman is more recent than NRC.</p>
<p>(1) I believe a more recent, 2010 NRC was released.
(2) Just because you assert Gourman is more accurate than NRC, does not make it so. Can you provide breakdowns for Gourman? No. Can you provide any evidentiary basis for your claim? No. Please realize in order to assert X is better than Y, you need to have factual, evidentiary bases to do so. You do not.
(3) You belittle Cornell as being “the weakest ivy”. This is your perception, other people will and have disagreed. Do not claim such a thing unless you can, as I stated above, provide evidentiary bases for these claims. Your reference to “CornHELL” is both lacking in maturity and simply unnecessary. Have you gotten into Cornell recently? Have you attended Cornell? Can you provide from personal experience which ivy is more difficult to get into or which has better program, from actually attending each one? No. So, please stop asserting things that you don’t know and making a fool of yourself.</p>
<p>I was accepted to Cornell. I’m a hyperactive loser whose IQ puts me at borderline ■■■■■■■■.
That’s just pathetic.</p>
<p>I don’t understand why you have to insult a school you don’t even attend. Trust me, it won’t get you far. If you seriously act like this IRL and genuinely want to go to UC and end up getting in, I suggest you at least hide your personality. It’ll make you more friends.</p>
<p>lol ok…I wouldn’t consider myself really butthurt. I go to a school I love, and despite people calling it “weak,” I don’t go around degrading schools that are considered lower than mine. All I’m saying is the tools that do it around here don’t make friends.</p>
<p>(1)
“I was accepted to Cornell. I’m a hyperactive loser whose IQ puts me at borderline ■■■■■■■■.
That’s just pathetic.”</p>
<p>Well if that’s true, clearly any form of assertion of what is viable evidentiary bases and what is not, will be lost on you. </p>
<p>(2)
“Also where are the NRC reports? Because I cant find them. Post a link or it didnt happen.” </p>
<p>That being said, if you want to find the NRC reports - there is an amazing thing called google. No seriously, you should check it out. Your mastery of the english language is still exquisite. </p>
<p>(3)
Since you believe your knowledgable bases to be superior to those of anyone else and have accepted only Gourman as being superior and do not understand that statistics can be made to say whatever you like them to - aka Gourman’s lack of publishing percentages puts it at a disadvantage when attempting to assert its’ superiority against XYZ ranking - I will cease attempting to make any logical or proactive argument or communication with you, as your lack of experience or knowledge leave much to be desired.</p>
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Not true about the IVY league … the IVY league schools share many other agreements that go far beyound athletics … such as all aid being financial aid and not providing merit aid … this is just one example of how the “league” is aligned on many issues both athletic and non-athletic.</p>
<p>The NRC ranking is pretty wack.
UW, UM, and tOSU are all #2.
Harvard, UChicago, Yale, and NU are tied for #26. Behind Mass, Buffalo, Rutgers, and Penn State.
[United</a> States National Research Council rankings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Research_Council_rankings]United”>United States National Research Council rankings - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>And the reason Cornell’s rankings are ridiculously inflated is because they reign supreme in freaking like Woodcarving and Pottery Engineering. Lol.</p>