Whats a good GPA to have? AP scores?

<p>Hey guys,</p>

<p>So I'm just wondering what is a good GPA to have for Penn ED, specifically Wharton. Would a 3.7 unweighted be ok? I'm coming from a school who sends most of their students to community college, so I'm not really sure how this process works. Also, are AP scores important? I was told colleges do not look at them, which I am having a hard time believing. Btw, I am a URM. Thanks!</p>

<p>For your unweighted GPA, I’d say you want to be 3.85+. It really depends on your school, but the gist of it is, the more A’s, the better (for your transcript). Take as many weighted/AP classes as you can for the “hardest” transcript distinction…but don’t crash and burn in them either (aka…5 weighted/AP with all A/A-'s is better than 6 weighted/AP with 2-3 B’s). </p>

<p>AP Scores aren’t huge…but they do help your application. Getting all 5’s versus all 3’s on the AP exams will make somewhat of a difference. </p>

<p>If you are a URM (Hispanic, African American, Native American, etc.), then you will have a huge boost in admissions! Remember that Asian Americans are NOT URMs.</p>

<p>Thanks for the advice! I really appreciate it. I knew my GPA would be my main issue. Freshman and sophomore years, I was really unmotivated and had a 3.7 GPA WEIGHTED. Horrible, I know, but the funny part is that my counselor told me I was right on par with those schools. So, I was thinking I’m doing fine, then I came to a realization. Lol</p>

<p>Good luck!! It really is a holistic process.</p>

<p>thanks! anyone else? i guess im just paranoid about my gpa.</p>

<p>I’m an ORM and got in CAS ED with a 3.73, if it helps.</p>

<p>I got into SEAS with a 3.77 UW. As hardworking21 mentioned, course rigor is a big factor in determining how “good” that GPA is. Extracurriculars and such also can help to make up for it (for example, the admissions officers will understand if you sacrificed a couple "A"s because you chose to work on something you’re passionate about, such as robots or volunteering or something like that).</p>

<p>thanks guys! do you think it would help to list the reasons as to why my gpa is low?</p>

<p>In my opinion, unless there was a catastrophic situation in the family I wouldn’t list reasons.</p>

<p>Well,
There was a death in my family and a job loss so I feel into a deep depression. So, I think that would be beneficial to put on my application? I’m not trying to get a sympathy admission, I’m just looking at it like its sort of a justification.</p>

<p>Hi how many subject tests does Penn require and can they both be in Math? like math 1 and math2?
also i have a 2150 on my SAT and 4.0 weighted GPA all the EC"S and captain of varsity soccer and tennis teams…also hispanic female…do i have a good chance at ED UPenn?</p>

<p>I think 2 if Im not mistaken and go on their website it should tell you…what are your EC’s? Do you have leadership roles in them, do they apply to your major and show you have a passion? If the answer to those questions is yes…I would say yes you have a goo shot. (Are you applying to the engineering college? If so I would say you’re in)</p>

<p>no i am not just to college of arts and science’s…do u think that my grade on my subject tests will harm me??
Math1-700 Math2-670 (retaking) english lit 580(retaking)???</p>

<p>i mean…its hard to say. im not an expert, but just on what i’ve seen…i would just try to get the english lit up</p>

<p>youll be fine</p>

<p>My unweighted 100 scale GPA throughout high school was 99.6207, and I’m attending Penn in the fall. I can’t claim a causation since its an observational study, but I can point out the correlation. Of course, I’m at the upper end of what Penn accepted. After my admittance I received a letter saying I was in the top 15% of all admitted students and an automatic acceptance into the Roy and Diana Vagelos Scholars Program in the Molecular Life Sciences, an invitation to apply for the Ben Franklin Scholars program, and an invitation to apply to the Civic Scholars Program (invite only). I turned down the science program/didn’t apply to the BFS, applied, interviewed, and was accepted to the Penn Civic Scholars Program because volunteering is extremely important to me. However, I know someone who was extremely qualified (more qualified than many of the incoming Penn students I can safely assume since Penn told me I’m so much better than a vast majority of the accepted students [some of that 15% will choose other Ivies or certain circumstances will keep them from coming to Penn so on campus I can assume I’m well above that 85th percentile, which I quite possibly could have been anyway {lack of data}]) that didn’t get into any Ivies.</p>

<p>I had many, many, many, many, things going for me. And literally perfect grades the past few years happened to be one of those things.</p>

<p>Don’t discount grades as if they aren’t anything important. Everything matters.</p>

<p>You know, goldenboots, you don’t need to type a lengthy rodomontade just to say that grades are important. Anyway, good for you… I guess?</p>