<p>haha, and you're supposed to be a MOM! I was hardly serious you know MOM! And my accusations are mild compared to your telling me to sober up and improve my social skills! I think you're the one who needs to learn better social skills. I for one have many a good friends. </p>
<p>......BURNED!</p>
<p>oh and I ,meant a hyprid of limited communism and capitalism, not a limitred capitalism. What a silly ,mistake i made.</p>
<p>whatever, intoxicated. just trying to communicate on your level.</p>
<p>and, by the way, I think Paris Hilton has done an enviable job of harnessing the energies of capitalism. She's doing something very similar to what Madonna did, turning zero talent into a household name, with the only real difference I can see being that she's not a hypocrite about it. </p>
<p>How many HYP graduates have succeeded at her level at her age? She may not be able to write a paper on it, but I think she instinctively understands economics very well. If I was hiring, I'd rather have someone who knows how to apply it over someone who wants to theorize it on paper. Paris is laughing all the way to the bank.</p>
<p>My my, you truly are a dizzy mommy aren't you. Paris Hilton is famous because she has a few porn movies out and her daddy's last name is hilton. and you're telling me that you admire her for not eing a HYPOCRITE and having an instinctive understanding of economics? I mean with her millions, economics isn't even remotely an integral part of her life. Oh and umm, i think you should find someone more deserving to fo ummm, worship. porn stars aren't exactly historical figure material you know.</p>
<p>lol this threads funny...but I must agree...Paris Hilton is nothing close to an economist...think of it this way...how long do you think she could stay on the Apprentice?...if you call popularizing the phrase "that's hott" an economic initiative, then I guess she could be right up there with Alan Greenspan :)</p>
<p>Furthermore...those who can theorize it are the ones that actually know how to apply it rather than those that go on a whim...if you ran a company it'd probably run in to the ground.</p>
<p>and eh....communism + capitalism....that's like oil + water.....communism's base is having the workers own the means of production....there can't be any promotion/pay raises/management....it'd be too disorganized.....i mean it'd control the imbalance of wealth, but then, ppl that have worked hard to earn their skills wouldnt' be getting paid based on their profession...a doctor getting a janitor's wage is the phrase I think.</p>
<p>But maybe I have you wrong...could you evaluate on your theory?</p>
<p>Dizzymom, Madonna is actually extremely smart. She was a 4.0 student and attended Michigan before dropping out and becoming famous. She may not be a talented singer, but she is a very talented entertainer and a very shrewd business woman. She knows how to market herself and she is amazing at re-inventing herself. Madonna started with nothing and she is now worth hundreds of millions of $$$...if not Billions. Holton has no talent of any sort.</p>
<p>I agree with Alexandre and intoxicated....</p>
<p>I think you meant elaborate, but yeah, I think that a communist government and a hybrid economy with a limited communist and fully capatilist approach to it would be effective. i know it sounds contradictory, but remember Machievelli's ideology on how to preserve peace in a state? He claimed that if killing one or two people will cease a rebellion, it's worth it. It sounds like a paradox, but it makes sense theoretically. Same applies to my communism +capitalism theory(sorta). With communism+capitaliam, the average person's income would increase whereas with only capitalism, there would be a fine line between the rich and the poor without the people at the bottom of the societal hierarchy having any opportunites to become richer. They're essentially confined to the bottom of the pecking order. Centralizing everything isn't effective in any country which is why I didn't say that communism alone will work either. If however, a partial or a large portion of power can be given to local officials, the economy will benefit.</p>
<p>wait what do you mean by limited communist and fully capitalist approach?</p>
<p>you just mean a mixed economy, which most countries are today.</p>
<p>I do mean a mixed economy, but none have an approach that includes one such with both communism and capatilismn in it.</p>
<p>never mind, i guess china does, and its economy is soaring. There have been predictions that its rapid growth is going to transcend itself. However, I don't see that happeninf anytime soon, eventually maybe, but for the next decade i don't think so. Buuuuuut, the US is still #1 and always will be in my heart. :D</p>
<p>lol, china's economy may be soring, but it still sucks to live there</p>
<p>actually, the average income of every chinese has quadrupled ovr the years. For example, if one is a breeder earning 50,000/year here, he/she would be earning 100,000 china. And with china's high investment interest rates, money accumulates very quickly if you invest it. But yeah, in many other aspects it does suck. Well, except for its landscape. i vacationed in china 2 years ago, and there were some very elegant old imperial styled buildings and landscapes. The grandcanyon really can't compare.</p>
<p>yes, but you also have to take in to account that Chinese citizens don't get nearly as much social welfare...they're living conditions are alot worse, and they have no religous freedom...overall, many Chinese aren't very happy with their living conditions....they have no political, or social freedom. Power is too concentrated....the economy can easily fall at the same rate it has soared</p>
<p>I dunno, the tibeton monks seem pretty happy to me living a quiet life of confinement in the mountains of tibet. Religious tolerance may be limited in china, but it isn't absent. they do have freedom of worship in some areas. And as for the living conditions especially social freedom, I see a reformation in that aspect. Remeber the Tiananmen square massacre? well, it was largely exaggerated bu the media. While china has never had a lot of social freedom, I wouldn't say that they can't improve it you know.</p>
<p>Madonna is very shrewd, I agree. As is Paris Hilton. That does not translate to talent, nor does it have to. I would rather listen to Norah Jones, or Avril, say, than Madonna, but I do have to admire Madonna for how much she has built on so little.</p>
<p>As for Paris, I suppose to those whose heads are burrowed in the adult aisles of Blockbuster, the porn movies appear to be her entire resume. I hear that there's some question as to whether she might have been in cahoots with its release. But the porn thing was so ten minutes ago, as someone's generation used to say. Paris is renting herself out to open clubs and I think even has her own scent on the market. She is also driving mothers of pre-teens nuts in the same way Madonna did, as they try to emulate the lowest common denominator</p>
<p>I don't believe I ever said Paris was an economist, but I certainly believe she is a plum of an example of how anyone -- Madonna is a better example here because you could argue the Hilton name gave Paris a boost -- can make it in our capitalist society, so I see her as being instinctively aware of how to navigate the system. </p>
<p>I don't LIKE her any more than I admire Donald Trump for playing with other peoples' money and embarrassing himself on tv and trying to patent "You're fired". They make me cringe, and Madonna is the third in that unholy trinity by my lights. But yes, I grudgingly have to admire them.</p>
<p>As for "ruining the thread", consider how these people would have fared in your social democracy or under communism. If you still don't find it relevant, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but just because you aren't able to see the connection doesn't mean it isn't there.</p>
<p>Inttoxicated, I dont know why you persist in personal attacks on other posters.(I've noticed you've been banned, as well as the plentiful asterisks that punctuate your verbiage). If I had to put money on it, I would guess that bad habits from roaming Internet forums with less decorum than this one have followed you here. CC offers an opportunity to be your better self -- why not choose that option? You might surprise yourself and turn out to be someone you could like.</p>
<p>gurdgingly admire paris Hilton? I'm afraid i find you rather disturbing. I dislike personal attacks, and I don;t want to attack you, but I think you should refrain from belated parental so-called lectures and actually add some input realted to the topic of this thread, if you have any that is. Was it not you who wrote some asine comment about escargots rendering frenchmen invertebraes?</p>
<p>seth -- ah, you remember one of my posts! Yet I remember none of yours. Hmmm...</p>
<p>ahh, your so-called or shall i say pathetic attempts at witticism are i'm afraid not at all up to par. Just so you know, you posted in one of MY threads, and i have a good memory so...</p>
<p>Wait...... when did Paris Hilton come to this political thread? I hate Hilton. She is a daddy's girl, a lousy actor, and has a reptation of being a celebrity porn star. She thinks she's so <em>hot</em> but her really thin figure says it all. </p>
<p>As for the best form of government, I suppose it would be a Democratic Republic. America probably has the best political system ever.</p>