<p>I just can't believe people here in college confidential... I know that many are going to be angry for what i'm going to say...but well...i just can't be quiet anymore. I come here because there is some useful information and sometimes is fun to read the dumb things that people write. What it's sometimes sad is that these people that are all harvard and yale pool are by far the more off-centered I've ever seen. What proves that being intelligent is not about having a gpa of 4 and having a 2400 sat, not even IQ tests...If u have a 4 gpa that just means that u have great discipline (Which is a virtue, of course) Anyone who works hard enough can have great achivements at school..that's nothing to brag about. Then sat's mean nothing...some people are bad at taking test...EC's and AP's? Most people take them to have a bigger fatter curriculum, not because they actually feel passionate about studying or learning ( I can think of several frosh that are already at this forum taking notes and planning their high-school carreer in order to become an ivy golden-boy) Of course behind those buldging curriculum there's always mom and dad pushing their kids who're already 18 and are big enough to handle their own lifes...The intellectual capacities are measured by what people read, by what they're capable of creating and doing by themselves, by the choices that they make...People who don't realize that college isn't the major factor in their lives, who're asking questions like..Should I lie about my ethnicitiy/essay/ec's etc...so I can kiss HYPS's nuyy...? Or that complaint about URM because someone is actually letting black and latino kids out of the ghetto and is not giving an advantage to the preppy snotty bording school kid...And don't get me started about those who say...gee! Men do better than women in the sat's...awesome dude! You people should have a reality check. There is more into life that getting into a prestigious college or earning a lot of money or being a valedictorian. Someone's who's actually been in contact with human spirit, who has some sort of maturity or wisdom, who has actually take the time to think a bit for themselves are those who're really worth of being called intelligent. And no one should feel less importante because he's not going to a top 25 school..Think about it...a lot of nobel laureates and leaders have came out of top-schools...but how many haven't come from normal ones?
The thing is that u should do what u love...what u like...not what others expect from u. And if u're afraid of deceiving mommy and daddy and those who tell u that u have to win a bazillion of dollars a year in order to worth as human being...u're going to be miserable for the rest of ur lifes...</p>
<p>P.S (I know that there are some people here who're actually doing what they want and love..this thread is not for everybody at cc..)</p>
<p>Oh, I just wanted to add that those who're asking which college should I go to? or things of that sort...should also have a reality check...How're u going to make such an important decision based on what some guys on the internet who u don't even know and are probably are as clueless as u are? Have some balls and start making ur own decision and thinking for yourselves...and if u make a mistake, deal with it..assume like a grown up, that's what we are..</p>
<p>yet you are as guilty as most here. in a thread months ago you said "At the beginning i wanted to apply to ivy's but i've noticed that i have no chances at all". you are obviously not too righteous to want to apply and attend ivies, you just know you cant get in to one and now let your frustrations out by saying the majority of people on this site are much to concerned about h.s. issues and where they get to go to college. in another thread (that you created, no less) you ask the cc community if having a "harvard-rec" is going to give you a big admissions advantage. </p>
<p>so pretty much i guess im just calling you out. you clearly care, so stop pretending.</p>
<p>There's only one right answer, and if you don't know it you're dust. Sorry, but that's the way it is. And neither harvard, yale, nor princeton really have anything to say about it.</p>
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Someone's who's actually been in contact with human spirit, who has some sort of maturity or wisdom, who has actually take the time to think a bit for themselves are those who're really worth of being called intelligent.
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I have been in contact with Lamborghinis, and yes, I realize they are truly what life is about. My decision to be a capitalist and attempt to make a lot of money is the best path for me. Don't judge, that'd be wrong.</p>
<p>most of us put all we have into getting into a good college because it's what we have lived for up until now. and if you cant respect someone else's passion just because you don't share it, then i think you're the one who needs to wise up.</p>
<p>if you don't like the subculture people who share the same goals have formed here, then do yourself a favor and don't come to the site.</p>
<p>then again, if people on here are obsessing about HYP for no reason other than money or parents, there's obviously a problem. but don't worry, things wont work out for them if those are their only motives.</p>
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most of us put all we have into getting into a good college because it's what we have lived for up until now. and if you cant respect someone else's passion just because you don't share it, then i think you're the one who needs to wise up.
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There is more into life that getting into a prestigious college or earning a lot of money or being a valedictorian. Someone's who's actually been in contact with human spirit, who has some sort of maturity or wisdom, who has actually take the time to think a bit for themselves are those who're really worth of being called intelligent.
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<p>Part of the learning experience in many's life is to go through the college process and find out for themselves which path is right for them to take. For those who are devoting so much time and energy and effort into the college application simply want to follow their dreams or at least what they believe they want at the moment. Going to a presitigious college, for example, gives them an advantage to pursue the things they want and they will eventually develop maturity and wisdom through the experience. This is only ONE encounter with your so called human spirit. It's part of becoming intelligent.</p>
Then why are you here? I know you said you found some useful information here and you enjoy reading dumb comments, but trust me most if not all of the information said on this site can be found in many other sites so just find another one to go to if you're going to complain about those who are just concerned with their future education.</p>
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And don't get me started about those who say...gee! Men do better than women in the sat's...awesome dude!
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<p>I think people say this because numbers wise it's a true statement, as based on Data of 2005 College-bound seniors:
As for males the mean score for CR is 513 and in math is 538
As for females the mean score for CR is 505 and for math is 504.
Numbers don't lie.</p>
<p>you are obviously an intelligent person yourself. you probably are more passionate than the average CCer about what you do. however, you fall into the trap of feeling morally independent and superior. many people have had their moments of outbursts that ostracize the others for what they believe to be wrong---look at those who ask to ban the chances forum. they have good intentions, but are placed in the wrong context. it is only an immature passing stage in life. you should respect the will of those who want to attend HYP. elite schools are rare feats in life, just as earning a lot of money is ultimately a method or an element of success.</p>
<p>Yeah, it's true, I got worried when I saw most peoples credentials here...And I decided to choose colleges that were more compatible with my grades and sat's scores...However after thinking it over several I times I decided to give it a shot anyway because if I'm going to leave my country I better love the colleges I'm applying to..so I changed my mind. I don't think I should explain my personal life thou...That post really hurt your ego if you took the time to read everything I wrote at this forum..lol...And again, information is always useful...And maybe I expressed myself the wrong way...I don't criticize people for wanting to go to good schools or wanting to have lots of money...I just criticize the fact that often they do it not because they want to but because family/society puts the preassure on them and they don't have enough personality to do what they really want...If u want to be a capitalist, I'm ok with it...besides...don't say "don't judge...that's the biggest falsehood u could ever say...everybody judges...you're by criticizing what I wrote..I just put it down at a website...and for the last guy who wrote..Numbers don't lie...but they don't say it all either...
And people..chill out and be happy :D I'm wrong...I'm totally wrong...I'm just soooo jelaous...lol..You know it, I know it...so stop worrying</p>
<p>FauxHoax you're right...I guess I shouldn't feel morally independent (I don't feel superior at all, even if I sound cocky...) It's just that sometimes we have trouble understanding other people's mind -The endless human dilemma :'(- And by posting this thread I wanted to see how people would react to see if I can penetrate into the college madness. Mission accomplished lol...I've never liked school...but that doesn't mean I don't like to learn...High-school wasn't what I expected. Again I don't think it's wrong that people want to go to HYP's...because they provide (In my case) the enviroment of intellectual challenge that we've all been dreaming about. What I don't like is people who do it just for the name...who really don't care about learning but they just do it because it's what's asked of them. And of course money matters! I'm not telling cc's to become hippies and start living in the street. But if you're planning your whole life around money make sure that you do it because you're a greedy, money-lover man...not because what others might think of u if u have an average income</p>
<p>I think life is wasted if you spend the majority of your time focusing on something you are forced to do for the majority of your young lives(school). JenJen9ny said it best.</p>
<p>"I have been in contact with Lamborghinis, and yes, I realize they are truly what life is about. My decision to be a capitalist and attempt to make a lot of money is the best path for me. Don't judge, that'd be wrong."</p>
<p>I don't think people here are OBSESSED with college...just bored.</p>
<p>I understand some of the OPs concerns, but ultimately this website's positive aspects far outweight the negative. People here motivate each other...even those that sometimes say things in a rude way ( ALOT :rolleyes: ) inadvertently show people that they should rethink their future application and college plans.</p>
<p>i actually think it's good that misguided people come to CC...there are a good amount of people on here who actually can see through the bull****, and we usually are able to convince the misguided people over time that Ivy is not equal to God and that there is a lot more meaning to your life than SAT scores and GPA. it's good that CC is here for those ivy-obsessed people. i was one of them myself!</p>
<p>i second that jimbob...i was helping some dude out before on his list and he got very upset that i suggested he hadn't really researched his list since it was full of ivies + stanford. i was like, look, i know you haven't researched those because that's basically the EXACT same list as mine was when i first started until i realized that not all of those prestigious schools fit my personality or my chances.</p>