^ Not necessarily Han Chinese but other ethnic groups of Chinese too. Most of the Chinese in South Asia are not Hans origin. Anyway, many are descendants of mixed ethnic groups after centuries of co-habitation. I know a student who is a descendant of the royal family (which is Mandarin) in Ching Dynasty, but with a Han’s last name. I also know people from HK with different Chinese ethnic origins a few generations ago.
I knew one guy who was Manchurian, I think that was it. But I edited anyway cause I think you might be right.
“When a school has 5-10% wealthy kids, you probably don’t realize the problem easily. When a school has 30%+ wealthy kids, you do feel the SES pressure. From personal outfits to winter/spring break vacation, even some (but definitely not all) of them are very nice people. There were a bunch of kids just vandalized a winter resort this year.”
How is that “pressure”? Are the wealthy kids throwing you against the wall and demanding you go to Europe on spring break or wear designer clothes? Life isn’t equal and some people will always have / spend more than others. You can teach your kid to be resentful and jealous, or you can teach your kid to be happy for others.
I know that if I get negative towards someone who spends a lot on (Thing I Consider Frivolous), deep down I’m just jealous that they have those funds and I don’t.
90% of current Chinese population are the Han Chinese. One of my coworker at work came from Hong Kong and he told me the language that he used to speak gone extinct.
Billcho post 36 - I don’t see the point. A state flagship needn’t be heavily OOS or particularly expensive to have wealthy students. Just to pick on two examples, you don’t think there are uber wealthy suburban Kansas City (and suburban St Louis and suburban Chicago for that matter) kids at KU? You don’t think there are wealthy Tulsa families whose kids are at Oklahoma? Not all wealthy families aspire to Ivy or similar. And even if they were, not all of their kids are academically qualified to swing the bat.
Btw what are we defining as wealthy? The two-doctor or two-lawyer or two-executive family who can take the family to Europe over spring break – or truly wealthy, private jet folks?
@Pizzagirl I don’t see your point either. I never try to generalize for all state flagship just stating my observation in my state flagship. You are free to quote other example. Go back and read #32 again from the first sentence.
I figure we’re talking about 8 figure net worths. So, let’s say first class trip to Europe over spring break.
And I will confirm with billsho, 8 figure net worths are not uncommon at Michigan.
Well, my definition is a lot more lenient. Just whoever that can easily afford a quarter million per kid for college out of pocket any time without sacrificing their lifestyle. 
@Pizzagirl I was thinking more like Ibiza for spring break and people that don’t fly commercial.
Just to make sure I have the number right, that 8- figure networth is $10 million, probably top 1%.
There were over a million people in the US with over 10 millions net worth even years ago.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/point-seveners-new-name-millionaires-club
Some states have public universities that vary greatly in terms of the SES of the students. In the South, the state’s flagship university will invariably be described as fully of snobby rich kids while kids at the A&M or other colleges might be described as “redneck” or hicks. These descriptions tend to overstate the case, but there is in fact some truth to them.
And believe it or not, people do tend to be happier going to schools where they fit the mold. So one should absolutely look at the SES and general life outlook of the students at various colleges before deciding to attend. With that said, I wouldn’t suggest anyone write off a school without visiting it.
It’s not a generalization to say that the international students at my kids’ small, non-prestigious private high school were all wealthy. Private schools need a certain percentage of very rich kids to be able to admit kids on scholarship. There’s no shame in that and it’s not racist to say so. It’s just a fact.
Everyone looks at the SES of the students at the schools to which they are applying. They call it fit, and it matters. I don’t think they all do it consciously, as in, “a huge percentage of the kids here are one-percenters,” but they do look for clues like style of dress, whether it is easy to have a car on campus, the cost of joining sororities/fraternities, the prices in the local restaurants, the ease of getting an on-campus job.
^ There are also near $2000 per month single bedroom upscale new apartments versus 2 bedrooms shared by 4 at around half of the cost (for the whole unit) within a few blocks. By the way, in my state flagship, there are already a few multistory upscale apartment buildings around campus and there are two to three new multistory upscale apartment buildings to be opened by the end of this summer. That just reflect how the SES of the student body changed in recent years while accepting more OOS students.
@billcsho You sound like you could be my neighbor. The Georgia Hope Scholarship and Texas 10 Percent Rule are sending a lot of smart and rich kids to schools throughout the Southeast. The Texas rule seems to be that the students have a choice of going to SMU and driving a junky car or going to an OOS state school with reasonable fees and get a Tahoe or BMW.
@EarlVanDorn The difference is my state flagship does meet the need of in state students making it even more affordable to needy family while accepting tons of oos students paying $55-$60k per year. There are indeed students driving BMW around town.
@billcsho Ole Miss has almost open enrollment for in-state students, and the school estimates the cost of attendance at $23,372 (this includes everything; tuition is $7,344 annually. OOS students pay an additional $13,230 annually, and I think about half of OOS students who apply are admitted. OOS students now make up a majority of each freshman class, and as a result Ole Miss is awash with money in comparison to other state universities.
@EarlVanDorn, when my son and visited Ole Miss we didn’t get the impression that there was an overwhelming number of rich kids there. I think our son could handle it if that’s the case; we’re in the lower middle and working class section of an extremely wealthy (probably top 10 in US) county. We’re one of those families who appear high income if you don’t take into account the high cost of living in the DC area. Some of his friends do live in what I would consider McMansions, mostly because he’s in a magnet program that’s located in our neighborhood buy draws students from the affluent parts of the county.
If only half of OOS students are admitted to Ole Miss, it must not be getting the ones with top-end stats, since the OOS automatic admission threshold is not particularly high, though higher than the IS automatic admission threshold.
http://admissions.olemiss.edu/applying-to-ole-miss/freshmen/
IS: 3.20 HS GPA, *or/i and (16 ACT or 760 SAT CR+M), or 2.00 HS GPA and (18 ACT or 880 SAT CR+M), or NCAA minimum (not required to be an athlete).
OOS: 2.75 HS GPA and (22 ACT or 1020 SAT CR+M)
Also, the OOS price of $36,602 described above is not the most expensive of OOS prices for state flagships.