when to transfer

<p>I know i have another thread but i forgot to mention some things. My hs gpa was close to a 3.0 -3.3. My sats out of 2400 is a 1580 out of 2400. During my junior and senior year at my highschool i did all sorts of activities but i got a heart condition junior year. I had an enlarge heart and i had to drop all activities. Since i like being active this had a great effect on me because i felt depressed that i couldn't do sports and i got bad grades in honor classes. Then came my sats i did bad on it because i never really prepared myself for it and even with tutors and kaplan i guess i didn't put all my effort that i can. I guess im not good at taking long amounts of time. I also had learning problem when i was young. I was three years behind everyone but with good effort on my part i was able to get back at the schools level. I was put with easy classes and stuff like that so when it came time for me to devlop in highschool i had an ambition of taking harder classes because i felt like that i was stupid and i wanted to impress others because they were like omg hes so dumb. Well i shouldn't of listened to them and i shouldn't of taken those hard classes. That is why along with my medical problem i was never able to fulfill my potential. I guess the way i went around it was not the best idea. So when senior year came my parents even though they know all this they told me to get good grades to get into a good college. So i took ap physics and ap calc and the rest honors but didn't take the max classes i took the min/mid way of classes so by then my medical problem was done i started understanding myself more and i realized that i'm different than others and i need to do my best. So i tried my best and i never got below a 90 average overall senior year. Now for my college I am going to attend Bryant University in the Fall of my Freshman Year. This was a huge mistake because even thought bryant is a good school its mad expensive but its the best school i got into. That was a dumb idea. My family members got into good school and are doctors and dentist or successful businessmen and i wanted to be like them. My loan per semester is going to be 22 grand per semester. Thats not good but i wasn't thinking because ever since i was a child i was never able to say that o i was smart because i was behind since i was born when i was three years behind everyone and the reading class, and medical problem. I guess i justed want to be part of the group. But now i realize that you shouldn't matter what other people are doing or what they've accomplished. Its upto you to determine your future. You controll your destiny not any1 else. So now im forced to go to bryant. They were making me choose 6 classes but i dropped 1 and chose 5. Because i realized that when i took classes fresh-junior year i packed them in thinking that o i was smart i can do it but i couldn't. Senior year when i was able to take less classes i never got below a 90. The classes that i'm taking are intoduction to business, mathematics of fianance, introduction to liberal arts, Foundations for learning( college introduction class), microeconomics class. This comes to a total of 15 credits. I plan on doing my best asking teachers for help since the school is small and getting help by the aids that they offer if i ever need help. I want to transfer. The schools i am considering for sophmore year to transfer is Rutgers, Uconn, University of Miami(if they give me money), Virginia tech, clemson university, Umass, Penn State, Binghamton, or the university of delaware. For junior year my dream was always to go to UF do either do law or accounting so i know UF is hard so i plan on trying law and double majoring in. Accounting or minoring in it. If that doesn't work then maybe UNC chapell hill. I know i have high aspirations but can this work out for me plz help</p>

<p>Two years of community college would give you the opportunity to get your academic life in order - to deal with your self-esteem issues, study habits, focus issues, and at a fraction of the cost. You could also take a 3rd year if you decided to change majors, or simply needed to go part-time because of mental or physical health issues. CC would give you breathing room to grow as a person and a student.</p>

<p>The best place to be as a student is not to be constantly judging oneself against peers in a way that causes anxiety or question one’s intelligence… going someplace a little bit more local and anonymous like a CC can be a perfect place to grow. Think of it like playing minor league baseball – work on the farm to get you ready to play with the majors. You don’t want to self-implode from your own lack of confidence. Trust me, plenty of kids implode their freshman year of college.</p>

<p>At a place like College Confidential, you will meet many people who are obsessed about going to the most prestigious place that can be afforded or gotten into by hook or by crook… the reality is that YOU need a MATCH for YOU. </p>

<p>Bryant does not sound like a match financially. And while Bryant accepted you based on your application - your physical health issues and your mental health issues are raising a big red flag - one that says you could crash and burn by going to the major leagues too soon.</p>

<p>Take a deep breath. There are thousands of routes to a college degree and a career. This “Bryant or Bust” sounds frantic to me… and perhaps not well thought out. You are a passionate college student who needs more time to really gain the skills and confidence to do well in college - and trust me - college is more than just about being smart - it requires a lot of emotional maturity to handle. </p>

<p>This is not what you want to hear - but a local CC is my recommendation after hearing about finances, medical issues and your struggles with confidence and school in general. It doesn’t have to be so difficult.</p>

<p>I have many friends who have gone to CCs and then transferred top top universities like Stanford and Berkeley. CCs are small, concentrated, have many dedicated professors and you can be a big fish in a small pond for 2 more years - which is a great way to grow big and strong in the academic world.</p>

<p>Going straight away to the best 4year that will accept you is NOT the only option and quite possibly NOT your best option. Many many many many students crash and burn and drop out freshman year at elite LACs… and often the signs were there before the first day of class but parents and the student were unwilling to look at the signs and would rather just gamble away 40K on a hope rather than create a strong second plan that had success written all over it. </p>

<p>Don’t get caught up in the prestige of a private 4year college.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>BTW - you are not stuck at Bryant. If you write to them in the next 2 weeks before school starts you can get 100% of your tuition back.</p>

<p>No my health was junior year it’s fixed now and the mental that was junior year I was sick but I’m fine Bryant fits my need because it’s max students is 23.</p>

<p>Well, it sounds like you don’t want to consider the CC option. That’s your choice.</p>

<p>I don’t think just because a class has 23 or less students in it that it makes college more manageable. It is also impossible to gauge how much “help” the professor will give a student - large or small class. The hardest class I ever took had only 8 students in it. The professor expected independence of ability and learning on part of the students. The class wouldn’t have been easier if it were 2 or 200.</p>

<p>And at my CC (btw, I also went to a top-50 LAC at one point as well, so I really am able to first hand compare-and-contrast the two experiences) I have had many classes that were 20 students.</p>

<p>In any case - what are you really asking? Since you won’t consider CC… what help are you looking for in terms of Bryant? Nothing is going to fix your 44K student loan for the first year (repaid at about 80K) So - what do you hope to experience at Bryant that is worth 80K of cash rolling out of your wallet? Are you academically (study skills, emotional skills, writing skills, communication skills) ready for Bryant? It starts in 3 weeks…</p>

<p>It’s not 40k per semester it’s per year and my parents r Payin for half whichbis 20 which is still expensive I just want help with transferring questions</p>

<p>Ah. 20K is still a lot.</p>

<p>The thing to do with transfer questions is to make a list of possibilities. Then do your research so that you can split them up into Reaches, Matches, and Safeties. (Sound familiar??) Start with scouring basic stats, like with College Board dot com website to split the colleges into the three tiers. Then start researching the actual college websites on their transfer pages and see what the requirements would be for each. I suggest a giant posterboard chart or spreadsheet… for example, some will require SATs… you have a choice… retake your SATs for a better score or stick with what you have… what does that realistically do with your options? Note which schools offer Soph transfers and which only Junior transfers. See if there are other restrictions on transfer. You may be able to eliminate certain colleges because you realize your profile won’t match or the admission requirements too onerous.</p>

<p>If you are looking for a formula for where you can get in, there isn’t one. But, to get you in the ballpark, try this – pretend you are trying to get into the college of choice, but again as a freshman. Was your HS GPA/SAT in their median 50%? Then you are well in the middle of their profile once again and if you do well in college, will still be a good candidate. You can see those SAT median scores on College Board dot com. That is your starting point. For a Soph transfer especially, your HS record still weighs in heavily. Then… if you do great in college (3.8 and above) your ability to get into a school goes UP from your HS SAT median scores. If you do very well (3.5 and up) then it is a slight bump up. If you do just okay with a B average (3.0) then you probably are still in that same band as you were during your HS application period. And if you do below a 3.0, I believe, that you may start slipping down in the ranking compared to your HS application.</p>

<p>Make sense? That’s just how I’d approach it. Reaches, Matches and Safeties built from your HS SAT/GPA profile and use your first semester of college grades to dial it up or down. </p>

<p>If you go as a Junior transfer, it is much more simply based on your college GPA.</p>

<p>In many ways you are back at square one with the college search.</p>

<p>Be careful on the financial aid part - since one of the reasons you want to transfer (the reason?) is $$. Money is drying up quickly… what kind of financial package would work for you? Which colleges actually would offer that to you if you were accepted?</p>

<p>Well if I can get into a public school that would be great and the reason why I talk like that is because I’m on my itouch I was considering either goin to uconn since I’m instate,rutgers,Virginia tech,Clemson,and Delaware. I was considering after sophmre year that I’d apply to Unc chapel hill or uf if I get good grades. I know my aspirations r high but that is my goal</p>

<p>High aspirations are good. Just throw some safeties into the application pile as well!</p>

<p>K what r some saftirs for me if u want see my stars see my pro</p>

<p>You would first have to say what states/cities you’d be willing to go to for a Safety – I presume east coast/florida only? What’s your home state? I wouldn’t have the answers for you (I’m familiar mostly with West Coast schools) but that is the info others will need to be helpful to you.</p>

<p>Ya east cost is what I’m looking at. When I call the admission departement what questions should I ask</p>

<p>I would actually start with reading your target transfer college’s website. Many colleges have extensive information about transfer requirements… if you can get basic information online then you can save the phone calls for very specific questions. Put another way, try not to annoy the admissions offices with questions you should be able to figure out on your own.</p>

<p>I don’t know what questions you need answered, but perhaps start a list and see how many of them you can figure out by reading their websites. After you have scoured the websites, THEN call and ask the tricky questions. Remember - College Board dot com has some of this info already gathered ready for you.</p>

<p>1a) When are applications due?
1b) When are my transcripts due?
1c) Is SAT required for transfers? etc.
2) What is the median 50% of your student body? (Found at College Board)
3) What is your acceptance rate for transfer students (good to find out what your competition might be - College Board sometimes has this listed)
4) Financial Aid questions
5) Will my classes transfer? (Most will take your basic classes if they seem similar – but a warning is that for most colleges, you don’t find out for certain until AFTER you have been accepted and transferred. I guess most places don’t want to go through a transcript evaluation until they have your money!)
6) Will there be guaranteed space to live on campus as a transfer student?
7) If I live off campus, what is the campus parking like/public transportation like?
Etc.</p>

<p>I don’t know what are top concerns for you… but that is a start… and you should be able to find information about most of that off the websites.</p>

<p>Thanks ya ur right I should find out what there requirements.I really want to go to a good school junior year where my he records don’t matter. But befor junior year I have to worry any sophmore year Is it good to transfer more than1time</p>

<p>There is no good or bad to transfer more than once–at the end of all it you had a college degree from your final college. The question is more about practicality. Things to consider about a double transfer</p>

<p>1) Upheaval… will you be able to really dig in those first two years and get good GPA, grow as a student, have leadership opportunities, get to know a few professors (both for recommendations as well as building a mentoring relationship). On top of that, will you be giving either of your first two colleges your full effort if you have one eye on the door out the entire time? </p>

<p>2) I think a double transfer means that for college #3, they will really want to see a compelling reason to take someone who has “college hopped”. It is not a huge problem, but college #3 will want to know on some level (not necessarily anything you say on an essay as much as how you come off overall) that you are a good fit for the college and not still shopping around and uncertain about your college future.</p>

<p>I still get the sense that your approach to college is rather scattershot - leaping ahead with plans when your finances are up in the air and when you need to find a solid, calm, nurturing place to actually grow academically so that you will be a valued transfer student. I still vote for 2 years at a CC because it would give you all of the above and much much more. The only down side <em>I</em> see is a short-term loss of prestige… and the upside of 2 years at a CC is huge… a quiet, local, supportive environment for you to grow academically and prepare for an amazing transfer AND have finances in place as well to pay for it.</p>

<p>i think what i’m doing is thinking to far ahead i think i should just concentrate on my first year at bryant and then transfer after my first year. Then i’ll transfer to a public school a school that i like and then i’ll see how my times going there and who knows i might like it there and i might not want to transfer.</p>