<p>Greybeard: was Stanford considered as good as HYP in your day?</p>
<p>I was in ILR my freshman year and I am transferring to CAS for next semester (doing internal transfer). ILR was fine, but I felt like many of the kids were very pre-professional, wanted to ONLY take classes to increase their GPA (with no regard to interest), and there was a very anti-intellectual vibe. I felt like the kids were all smart, but very few of them were intellectual, if that distinction makes sense.</p>
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<p>i totally understand what you’re saying 100%…it’s tough for someone who actually wants to enjoy the material…</p>
<p>although one could ignore the students and spend time with the professor in office hours…discussing the material more in depth (something i NEED to start doing) </p>
<p>CAS students can be more intellectual but i like being practical as well…although i dont want to be practical b/c i want to work on wall street…but not so sure i’m out to picket with unions either…</p>
<p>They still refer to CAS as the arts school. I was in the arts school and never really got the feeling that no one knew what they were going to do in the future. A lot of people had that pre-professional mentality, either wanting to go to law school or med school. Occasionally you’ll meet the person who is still undecided, but I think arts is probably a better stepping stone to grad school or professional school than other colleges at Cornell.</p>
<p>^ this is especially true for those who major/double major in econ OR biology…</p>
<p>less true for history and english majors…although some are pre-law.</p>
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<p>If you are a flamer then 1) You will always find fodder to feed your actions and 2) I really don’t care what you have to say anyways. I simply stated my intentions to preserve the image of the school, not as one of a bunch of pricks caring about where their school ranks, but one filled with students interested in satisfying their intellectual capabilities. I could care less what flamers had to think.</p>
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<p>I know EXACTLY what you mean here, this is actually why I want to switch over into the liberal arts side of the college. At the same time, I’m the type of student who will only entertain subjects that interest them, so as long as there is substance to the core material, I feel I would be able to make the most out of it. </p>
<p>I’m definitely going to see if the flexibility ILR offers is going to be enough for me to take all the classes I want in econ, history, philosophy, english, and government, but if I find myself tied down then I’ll see where I go from there.</p>
<p>you could always do this in CAS: </p>
<p>[College</a> of Arts and Sciences at Cornell University](<a href=“http://www.arts.cornell.edu/programs/collschl.php]College”>http://www.arts.cornell.edu/programs/collschl.php) </p>
<p>which is like a design your own major :D</p>
<p>Sounds like CAS w/o language requirements, which is pretty damn cool O_O</p>
<p>I might actually look into that…</p>
<p>roneald, you sound very similar to myself. I came to ILR, but was very interested in government, economics, and philosophy, and felt that ILR was good of major as any and seemed, on paper, to be a perfect mix of a lot of things. What you have to realize is that ILR is the study of work (which is good or bad depending on whether or not you are actually interested in that). You do learn government, econ, etc. but really ONLY in the context of work. So while it does mix all of these subjects, it is all related to the core of the school which is “Advancing the World of Work.” If you are interested in broader political philosophy, etc. you will only find topics relevant to work. I will now stop beating a dead horse, but what I realized was that I was really not interested in OB, Labor, HR, etc., and had some vision of a school that was a pure mix of all of the subjects ILR pulls from. I felt in my gut after my first semester I wanted into art and sciences to be a government major, but was too afraid to make the move. I finally decided I wanted to do it, and I am in the process of doing internal transfer. If you have gut doubts (which sound very similar to mine), I think that you may want to look to transferring to CAS after your first semester. You are already doing what I was doing at the end, viewing the ILR classes as things you have to do that keep you from taking classes in what really interests you…so why not major in purely what interests you. Then again, if you do find your passion in studying the world of work, there is no better place to be in the world than ILR.</p>
<p>you make a good point stringa1234…</p>
<p>i came into ILR wanting to be an international business type (you know with globalism and whatnot being the latest talk) </p>
<p>but now I am considering graduate work in a more traditional field because i am no longer an international business type…or am i? lol such tough decisions</p>
<p>The undergraduate business degree offered through CALs is very competitive and unique among the Ivies. My sister is in CALs and does very well in her A&S electives. Every college at Cornell has its fine points and weaknesses. A broad brush will not paint this picture.</p>