<p>So I heard that some state colleges do that. Anyone know?</p>
<p>Perhaps some state colleges may indeed give scholarships, but I never heard of them. What I can tell you for sure is that the LACs and the Ivies are very generous to internationals.
Btw, where do you come from and how much aid do you need?</p>
<p>Vessy</p>
<p>What exactly is LACs and Ivies? Umm basically as much as I can get. I'm here on a visa without permission to work which complicates things a lot(not that I would be able to earn enough money for tuition, but every bit helps and then I could just get a loan or something). I'm originally from Russia btw, but I live in US for 3 years now.</p>
<p>Privet:)</p>
<p>To answer your questions - LACs=liberal arts colleges such as Amherst, Grinnell, Macalester,etc. For a LAC rating you can check <a href="http://www.usnews.com%5B/url%5D">www.usnews.com</a> There you will find all the information that you need. The Ivies include Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Cornell, Upenn, and others. These two types of schools (LACs and Ivies) are said to provide sufficient funding for internationals, but they are also the most competitive in us. Therefore, even that one can receive fin aid there, it is hard to get admitted in the first place.
Well, if you need lots of fin aid I suggest that you apply to schools which are need-blind for intls and are famous for their generous fin aid programs. I have been doing some research on these issues, so I'll be glad to help you in some way (if I can).</p>
<p>Vessy</p>
<p>PRIVET VSEM!!</p>
<p>The only universities who can meet full (in contrast to partial) demonstrated need of every international student are Harvard, and sometimes MIT, Princeton and Yale. So, it's not so easy to get full finaid. </p>
<p>PiShi, wardenx!</p>
<p>Oh, oki thanks a bunch, Vesselina! I'll definitely have to take a closer look at it. I don't think I will be able to get into anything like Harvard because of my grades which aren't exactly bad, but probably aren't good enough for anything like that. I want to try for WPI though, first of all because they're a good engineering school and also that if I actually get admitted there, there's a higher chance of getting some help than in other places.</p>
<p>GreenStorm: Yeah, I was thinking about applying to MIT but as I said I don't think I can get into it because it's so competitive. Oh well, it may be worth a shot.
Again, thank you.</p>
<p>GreenStorm, you are right that it is not very easy to receive fin aid, but I am certain there are more universities that can meet one's full need. The problem, however, is that they can provide full rides for a very limited number of students, so the competition is pretty tough. Btw, did those of you who intend to apply to Harvard receive some letter which encourages you to apply there and congratulates you on your academic achievements? I was very surpised when I received mine..</p>
<p>Do svidania!</p>
<p>I'd like to add something to this discussion. As I said before, MIT and Harvard are not the only schools which can grant full fin aid to internationals. For example, I know that Smith, Williams, Brown, Macalester, Amherst and many others give their intl students sufficient funding and even full rides. One more thing, I believe that many intls pick Harvard, MIT and the rest only for their prestige and fin aid programs. But actually there are lots of great colleges which are not in Top 10 but can still offer excellent education and financial aid opportunities. So, the question is not about which school can cover your expenses(since there are at least 20 schools that give full rides to intls), but what exactly do you want to make out of your 4 years in college. I know people who decided to apply to the top Ivies just because they judged themsevles by the names of the schools they attend. When I asked some of them why they have chosen exactly those schools, they replied these were the only ones they've researched. I would never be attracted to a school for the sole reason that it can provide me with enough aid. Of course, financial aid is crucial for some of us (including me), but it is not the only factor. And wardenx, I am sure that you will find a school in which you can easily fit. After all, there are thousands of nice colleges!</p>
<p>many many colleges give aid to internationals.</p>
<p>it just depends on how hard is it to get aid.</p>
<p>"The only universities who can meet full (in contrast to partial) demonstrated need of every international student are Harvard, and sometimes MIT, Princeton and Yale. So, it's not so easy to get full finaid. "</p>
<p>NOT TRUE!! </p>
<p>Just emphasizing here so that people are aware.. Many people get confused.... </p>
<p>All the Ivies meet full need. A lot of LACs meet full need as well. So do Stanford and MIT</p>
<p>However, only three of the Ivies (HYP) are need blind.</p>
<p>There's a difference between FULL NEED MET and NEED BLIND. So beware!!</p>
<p>Here's a good list of schools with aid for internationals:
<a href="http://www.edupass.org/finaid/undergraduate.phtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.edupass.org/finaid/undergraduate.phtml</a></p>
<p>What do you mean when you say "full need"? For example, cost of attendance of Harvard about 42300$ (no?), and you can pay about 15000$, and he meets your need? Whan I say about it, I mean cost of attendance is about 40000$ and I can pay 100$. What do you think other colleges than Harvard and MIT can meet SUCH a need?</p>
<p>The short answer: Yes. Other colleges will meet such a need. But it will be harder to get admitted.</p>
<p>The long answer: You can go read it up yourself. I don't care to talk to people who are so blatantly rude and in-your-face. I don't see why you aren't accepting the fact that there are other schools besides MIT/Harvard that provide intl fin aid. Carolyn probably posted/pointed this out this multiple times in multiple threads on this board itself. You seem to be really confused about 'full need met' and 'need blind' which are two entirely different terms.. go read it up before you make another assault on all of our words.</p>
<p>Dear upandover, first of all, please, don't attack me. I understand very well what "full need" and "need blind" are, and I am not "blatantly rude and in-your-face". Let's discuss issue, not me and you, as individuals.</p>
<p>I mean that Harvard, MIT, and maybe Princeton are the only schools which are "need-blind" and "full meet" at the same time. I look for such schools, I don't need universities, which are only "full need".</p>
<p>I visited web-sites of Smith, Williams, Brown, Macalester, Amherst. They are NOT need-blind.
No one of these universities will admit me, if find out what need I have.</p>
<p>Look, Greenstorm, even with those enormous financial needs, I'm sure you stand a fairly reasonable chance at being admitted in at least one college (not necessarily MIT/Harvard, but most other American colleges are very good if you make the most of them), provided that your grades, SAT scores and essays are really solid. At least I hope so, for both our sakes ! ;-)</p>
<p>However, I would politely advise that you make every effort to revise that bitter attitude of yours. Not only does this annoy other forum members, but if you present yourself as a frustrated international that hates ECs and leadership..... you might as well not send in the application. Americans do <em>not</em> want pessimistic people. Additionally, ECs and leadership positions/skills are nowhere near worthless - you really should start trying to view things from the American perspective and learn to appreciate such skills.</p>
<p>And finally, as someone has said before, sell yourself, put yourself in the best light. If that seems immoral to you, then you're probably not seeing the bigger picture. So try to at least seem upbeat and optimistic, although you will eventually have to change internally too, so why not start as soon as possible...</p>
<p>My 2 pence anyway...</p>
<p>"maybe" Princeton? No Williams? You don't even bother to read them properly. I went through the whole admissions process last year, and as an intl student who needed aid very badly, you would think that I would know something about which colleges are need blind. Considering I got into some of those colleges listed there with substantial amount of financial aid.</p>
<p>"What do you mean when you say "full need"? For example, cost of attendance of Harvard about 42300$ (no?), and you can pay about 15000$, and he meets your need? Whan I say about it, I mean cost of attendance is about 40000$ and I can pay 100$. What do you think other colleges than Harvard and MIT can meet SUCH a need?"</p>
<p>This shows that you are confused over full need met and need-blind.</p>
<p>"No one of these universities will admit me, if find out what need I have." </p>
<p>That's not true. I know a guy who is paying less than $1000 in one of these univs. Again, the pool of peopel I know is small, as compared to the entire intl population, so there are prob more ppl who pay very little.</p>
<p>Again, you do not bother to read anything properly! I absolutely give up. Good luck. You are gonna need it with that defensive attitude of yours, you are not even considering what other people say... you really seem to be irritating and annoying even in the other posts. </p>
<p>Goodbye.</p>
<p>The information is right there on the website. I even checked. It wasn't in small fine print. </p>
<p>"I visited web-sites of Smith, Williams, Brown, Macalester, Amherst."</p>
<p>"maybe Princeton "</p>
<p>We gave you all the information, and all you do is assault (yes, assault!) us with faulty reasons. I could give you a link, but I haven't heard a single thanks, if not to me, then to carolyn, for the advice. It is very annoying for someone to willingly impart information, only to be attacked again.</p>
<p>Thank you, goc9000!!</p>
<p>upandover - </p>
<p>I don't ask you to send me any links or information. If you dislikes me, OK, just ignore. As for me, I don't want to correspond with you any more. </p>
<p>"I haven't heard a single thanks, if not to me, then to carolyn, for the advice"</p>
<p>I see YOU "do not bother to read anything properly". I thank everybody who gives me advice. Everybody! Look through this site if you don't trust me. </p>
<p>I suppose you're in Yale or some other connecticute univ. So study, don't bother others.</p>
<p>"We gave you all the information, and all you do is assault (yes, assault!) us with faulty reasons"</p>
<p>I gave me nothing. So don't usurp the merits of others. Good advices were from: carolyn, coureur(!), goc9000, vesselina, wardenx, ria, cupcake, and many many others. THANX THEM VERY MUCH!! </p>
<p>You just attack me.
(by the way, why all asians dislike me?)</p>
<p>I said that other colleges (one of them being Williams) are need blind as well. I don't really want to tell it to you because you don't bother to find out for yourself. As an example:</p>
<p>You say: "I visited web-sites of Smith, Williams, Brown, Macalester, Amherst. They are NOT need-blind. No one of these universities will admit me, if find out what need I have."</p>
<p>When the Williams website CLEARLY says:*
Williams has a 100% need-blind admission policy.
Put simply, your financial circumstances will not affect your chance of admission to Williams in any way. Because we believe our community should include the best from all backgrounds, there is no limit on financial aid expenditures. This policy allows us to select students - both domestic and international - solely on the basis of academic promise. *</p>
<p>Doesn't this clearly shows that you did not read the information there? It was right in the front page! You did not bother to read anything!</p>
<p>"by the way, why all asians dislike me?)" Racist remark.</p>
<p>Why do all 'asians' dislike you? It's not just asians here: you are simply spewing out racist remarks there, people dislike you because you are annoying, you doubt other peope's words, you are rude, and you insult others based on their supposed advantage in applying, you are racist (as evidenced by the other threads.) and you just plain sound bitter. Plus this is immature: "So study, don't bother others"</p>
<p>Am I RACIST??!! I am AGAINST RACISM since my childhood!! I'm internationalist!
My thread "Safe from Xenophobia" is created to unit antiracists!!</p>
<p>I created in my school and community the youth organization "we are against nationalism". And you call me "racist"! </p>
<p>Another example, that you "do not bother to read anything properly".</p>
<p>By the way thank you for your excerpt(sarcasm, of course!perhaps, you don't understand me properly).</p>