<p>UMich, Berkeley, UVA, UNC, UCLA ? Anyone actually get in from OOS that thought they would be rejected because their scores were too low?</p>
<p>I think Michgan takes in more OOS. UNC is EXTRERELY tough for OOS. One guy got into Harvard but rejected by UNC as OOS. Berkeley takes more OOS, so does UCLA.</p>
<p>UVA and W & M have recently decided to increase the number of in-state students, in response to political pressure from the state legislature. According to W & M’s press release: “A reduction in the out-of-state ratio was not required [by the legislature] after state universities, especially UVA and William & Mary, agreed to take additional in-state students phased in over the next four to five years, said Reveley, adding that **UVA has agreed to add 1,000 in-state undergraduates along with several hundred out-of-state students.” **</p>
<p>I read this as meaning that OOS will become an even tougher admit at these elite public schools.</p>
<p>to add to frazzled’s post, if this local area is ANY indication (NJ suburb), UVA is definitely taking more OOS than in past years; our local HS has not had admits in the last 5 years until this cycle…</p>
<p>From here, UMich started taking more OOS in 2010…</p>
<p>I agree about UMich, my D got in a couple years ago and loves being a wolverine! She also got into UCLA, but not Berkeley. Did not know that about UNC; any feel for UVA-I think it may be almost the same, but they do admit a few more OOS. I thought these states were hurting for money? I should add-we do not require financial aid and can pay the full cost. Most of the public schools figure that out pretty quickly. The UC system is in desperate need of money and does not have a large endowment like says Texas or Michigan. Still they remain fiercely loyal to in-state applicants who have a perceived “birthright” to attend.</p>
<p>UMich, UCLA and UCB have an incentive to take in more OOS students since they get OOS rates. Since UVA and UNC guarantee to meet need no matter the state of residence there is not the same incentive.</p>
<p>A few days ago the Seattle Times newspaper published a story on this matter concerning the U of Washington. Wow, did it create a howling tide of resentment towards the UW from many of the folks shared their opinions on the comments page. Basically, the UW announced last week that it WILL INCREASE the number of non-residents it admits, which has had the consequence that some Washington state applicants with high marks being denied admission. You should see the online venom now being directed at the UW. But as any rational thinker realizes, it’s all about finances. Once again the Washington State legislature is dramatically cutting its $$ support to the UW. But the kicker is, Washington is one of the few states wherein the legislature provides minimal support but neverthess retains the sole authority to set tuition rates. At least UMichigan and UVirginia have a bit more financial autonomy, as I understand it.</p>
<p>Rejecting more perfectly qualified candidates makes them more “elite”, even if the quality of education is declining. (As it is by definition at all “elite publics” that are cutting courses and increasing class size.) Go figure.</p>
<p>Yes Mini, it is nonsense.</p>
<p>It is a free market for customers like us. There are still some good public schools out there, like UW Madison, U of Minnesota, UT Austin, UC San Diego. They are as good (in many field of study) as many listed in OP’s list.</p>
<p>lots of state government finances have really taken a hit just in the last year, so you just never know what situation the public universities are in. Even the ones that guarantee to meet all need will be depleting their endowment somewhat to do so and that has to be replenished. The return on investment for any endowment is a total guess based on the financial market volatility in recent years. Admitting higher paying OOS students who do not need aid is a sure return. Bottom line, even if your kids have decent stats, it’s a cra…shoot, you have to apply in a scattershot fashion to many schools. Just hoping the spaghetti sticks to the wall somewhere.</p>
<p>Agreed, pleaseadvise. Sending out more than 10 application seems to be the norm for lot of us. Thank God we have four strands of spagetti stuck on the wall and we have options, sort of…</p>
<p>congrats. when I applied to college, I applied to 2 schools, one of which was a UC and the other Oregon State. the H.S. counselor missed the deadline for the OSU application for his recommendation form, so i got rejected there (no appeal allowed) and went to UCSB. The counselor retired soon after he blew my application (which ironically was the best thing ever to happen to me). Trying to narrow my S’s down to 10-12 schools.</p>
<p>My D has a lot of friends from out of state at her school- at least she did freshman year. Sophomore year found several of them returning for their home state. OOS tuition is expensive.</p>