<p>And is admission to LACs and 2nd tier universities hard?</p>
<p>ive heard alot about Ivies on this forum but not much about 2nd tier unis?</p>
<p>ps: asian male asking for full FA aid</p>
<p>any LAC or college that says it will meet full financial need of admitted students.</p>
<p>p.s. are you asking about free rides? then you should probably look at merit scholarships. need-based financial aid by definition is not a free ride, unless you're really that poor.</p>
<p>ok just wanna clarify this. lac/colleges offer degrees right just like unis?</p>
<p>Yes. The difference is that most LACs/Colleges do not offer PhD programs -- though some do have Master's programs.</p>
<p>Most colleges that claim to cover full financial need for admitted students DO NOT include internationals. Very few LACs do. No Tier 2 schools do. International applicants are generally seen by colleges as a SOURCE of revenue not a drain on limited financial aid. </p>
<p>Only 3 LACS, Amherst, Wiliams and Middlebury are need blind to internationals and will meet full need. All others are need aware or do not guarantee to meet full need. Many other restrictions also typically apply to international such as no international transfers, no ED applications. Admission rates are typically half or less of those of domestic applicants, especially for those that offer any form of aid to internationals.</p>
<p>only 3? wow.. :(</p>
<p>Middlebury has a very generous admission policy toward international students, though. It is a truly amazing and excellent school.</p>
<p>btw, thanks for the help guys! i appreciate it! :)</p>
<p>Richmond gives 50 full scholarships to each class, and international do get a few. These are merit scholarships, btw.</p>
<p>Bard gives substantial aid to internationals.</p>
<p>Quite a number of LACs (besides the ones already mentioned) are able to meet full demonstrated need for admitted international students. This ought to be a good list, albeit not totally exhaustive:</p>
<p>swarthmore
reed
bowdoin
vassar
colgate
oberlin
colby
bates
the remaining all-women's seven sisters (don't know if you're a girl): bryn mawr, smith, wellesley, mount holyoke
macalester
kenyon
lafayette
connecticut</p>
<p>i've seen you at the singaporean thread; if you're singaporean, you can try out for wesleyan's freeman asian scholars program: Wesleyan</a> University : Admission</p>
<p>^as well as carleton (they have scholarships for singaporeans too if i'm not wrong). and perhaps barnard (also one of the seven sisters) but i'm not so sure.</p>
<p>None of the addtional schools listed above are need blind to internationals. A typical policy is that of Colgate which states:</p>
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Although Colgate does offer financial aid to international students, applicants should be aware that admission to Colgate University is highly competitive for those students seeking admission with financial aid.
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<p>Essentially, unless you are an applicant they really, really want, your chances of admission as an international with FA are very slim.</p>
<p>^Well, yes, they're not need blind, and international student+fin aid+overrepresented/highly competitive country = one of the worst combinations for admissions, definitely. </p>
<p>I do think, however, that there are some international students who make the mistake of applying only to need blind colleges, because they're not aware that other colleges can meet full financial need too.</p>
<p>It's important to understand that:
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need-based financial aid by definition is not a free ride, unless you're really that poor.
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<p>I didn't apply to any of the need blind colleges, and had my full demonstrated need covered at the schools I was admitted to. My family still had to pay a certain amount (varies with each college according to how they calculate need).. My financial aid awards came pretty close to a full ride though.</p>
<p>so limitedvocab: which schs did u apply to ? accepted?</p>