Which of these schools correlate the most/least with what I am interested in?

College Search & Selection
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<p>Alright here's the list of schools (if you want to rec. others too that'd be great, although i already have tons of schools :) )</p>

<p>Reach:
·Wharton
·Stanford
·Harvard
·Duke
·Michigan – Ross</p>

<p>Match:
·NYU – Stern
·University of Chicago
·Northwestern
·Claremont McKenna
·Carnegie Mellon
·Berkeley
·UCLA
·USC
·Boston University</p>

<p>Safety:
·UCSD & all other UC’s
·University of Wisconsin -- Madison</p>

<p>Alright & here's what I'm looking for (in order of importance)...</p>

<p>-Strong econ and/or business department. If it is a business school, I still want the school to be involved some w/ the arts.<br>
-Excellent grad/job placement
-Class Size: as small as possible.
-I want a school that has a strong intellectual environment, but at the same time I still want people that are in touch w/ the "real world"
-Strong relationship w/ professors
-Work hard, play some...if you know what I mean. Parties are great, but nothing too insane.
-School Size: medium to large (4,000-10,000 maybe)
-Moderate political environment where both sides are presented (ideally favoring liberal, but only slightly). Also not too heavy of a religious influence.
-Merit aid would be cool, but finances are not an issue.
-Good weather would be a plus, but it's not a deciding factor.</p>

<p>If I'm forgetting anything, ask me. </p>

<p>THANKS! :)</p>

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<p>Notheastern has a really good business school. They participate in this tournament with other Boston schools every year and place fairly well within it. Also, Northeastern has really good grad school placement because everyone graduates from there with work experience within their feild.</p>

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<p>Wharton. Definitely. </p>

<p>Out of all the schools you listed, it makes the most sense along with your interest in business. At Wharton, you're talking amazing name recognition in terms of jobs, a nice balance with liberal arts classes, and a chance to be challenged but still have time for a life. </p>

<p>To be blunt, Harvard sounds more impressive than Penn to a random person on the street. On Wall Street, though, which is the one that counts, a Wharton grad is viewed as more valuable and will move more quickly up the ranks due to their practical knowledge. </p>

<p>As far as the political scene goes, the conservative side is highly represented in Wharton, and students in the college tend to be more liberal. The whole political spectrum is represented.</p>

<p>Of course, all the schools you listed are great - good luck with whatever you decide!</p>

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<p>You clearly know what you want from a college and you have a nice long list, but I am surprised that one school that would perfectly fit your needs is not on your list: Princeton. </p>

<p>Princeton has one of the strongest, if not the strongest, undergraduate economics department in the nation. Economics is one of the most popular majors at Princeton and Princeton, located 45 minutes from both NYC and Philly will also open you up to many internship opportunities in your later years.</p>

<p>Pton has excellent graduate placement, ranked behind Harvard and very close to Yale. These three, as Businessweek Magazine stated, fill up a vast majority of the available slots in the top 5 mba programs in the country. </p>

<p>Of the schools you have on the list, Princeton would be the smallest school. An incoming freshman class is usually targeted at around 1200, however, it is expected to increase over the years to a little over 1300 per grade. Princeton is known for its small environment (relative to universities) and its lack of major graduate programs/schools help make it known for its "undergraduate focus".</p>

<p>All professors are required to teach undergraduates. At Princeton, there are also "precepts" which are often run by the professor. Precepts are smaller, more intimate groups to discuss class topics. Precepts usually are in groups of around 10. You will get to know your professors.</p>

<p>It is one of the more down-to-earth ivies. Known for its eating clubs, you will not be experiencing a lack of social life. But with many requirements including junior paper and thesis, Princeton students are known to work hard to get their grades (receiving an A is rather difficult) and often times lumped behind Cornell as one of the more difficult ivies.</p>

<p>It is known for its political moderacy (good share of conservatives on campus, almost half-half with a liberal lean, if you recall the ever-so-famous Frist Filibustering this past spring). However, this does not mean it is politically inactive. Students are still very active politically. It is home to the American Whig-Cliosophic Society, one of the world's oldest college political/literary/debating societys. Princeton has hosted the World Universities Debating Championships twice.</p>

<p>Princeton is not very religious.</p>

<p>Pton is known for its superb financial aid offerings. It has the best financial aid program of the ivies. It began the no-loan policy in 2001, where all student loans were replaced with grants. Princeton is also known for its great generosity, most times offering more aid than its rival, competing schools. Princeton's students graduate with the least debt, around $2000 compared to the national average that hovers around 24k.</p>

<p>East coast....weather is cold and snowing.</p>

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<p>stambliark ive seen you post in many diff areas ( from upenn forum) and so on and every time it seems we have similar stats and interests very similar in fact so i hope u dont mind me lookin at ur list as a guide for me as well haha and hopefulyl i see u at wharton if we both get in ( since it seems like our choice to be)</p>

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<p>1) Michigan Ross isn't a Reach, its more of a match. </p>

<p>I echo Princeton! I think its much more balanced than Wharton, you will enjoy it much more, and in the end it has the same level of prestige in business regardless of major. Also, add Dartmouth, it is just like Princeton in this regard. Wharton is great, but too one sided, in my opinion. From your criteria (small classes, dualistic focus on econ/ business/ arts, medium sized tightknit community, etc), these I think are the two strongest fits and they arent on your list! </p>

<p>For Dartmouth:</p>

<p>-Strong econ and/or business department. If it is a business school, I still want the school to be involved some w/ the arts. </p>

<p>Econ is a top Dartmouth major and people love it. Dartmouth also has a huge liberal arts tilt.</p>

<p>-Excellent grad/job placement</p>

<p>Dartmouth has amazing placement into business and has an incredibly helpful alumni network. It is in the same consideration set as the top business/ overall schools. I know of History majors at VC firms, etc.</p>

<p>-Class Size: as small as possible.
Dartmouth is strong here. Not only are classes small but Professors are absolutely committed to teaching. They invite you to dinner, etc. </p>

<p>-I want a school that has a strong intellectual environment, but at the same time I still want people that are in touch w/ the "real world"</p>

<p>Absolutely. It is amazing how many intellectual people are around. Dartmouth is full of people who are very successful but also take a step and look at the world around them.</p>

<p>-Strong relationship w/ professors</p>

<p>See above.</p>

<p>-Work hard, play some...if you know what I mean. Parties are great, but nothing too insane.</p>

<p>The parties might be too big for you, but they only occur three nights a week, and most only go out a couple nights. It is amazingly work hard, play hard which is great. What I like most though is that people do so many random things besides going to parties also. Its a place where you can easily get people to have a snowball fight at midnight.</p>

<p>-School Size: medium to large (4,000-10,000 maybe)</p>

<p>Personally I found 4,400 perfect. You know alot of people (thanks to an awesome orientation, sophomore summer (most amazing experience), the tight community, etc). I think the size it really supports a camraderie that is harder at larger schools. Everyone is somewhat connected to each other. Yet you are always meeting people. </p>

<p>-Moderate political environment where both sides are presented (ideally favoring liberal, but only slightly). Also not too heavy of a religious influence.</p>

<p>No religious bent and more moderate of the Ivies.</p>

<p>-Merit aid would be cool, but finances are not an issue.</p>

<p>Its an Ivy.</p>

<p>-Good weather would be a plus, but it's not a deciding factor.</p>

<p>Its a given that Hanover is cold in the winter, but the school embraces it. We have our own ski slope! </p>

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

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<p>If I had to re-do your list I would say make it this. You are a little heavy on the matches, some of which don't fit what you seem to want at all (You would hate NYU I believe, for example).</p>

<p>Reach:
.Princeton
.Dartmouth
·Wharton
·Stanford
·Duke</p>

<p>Match:
·Michigan – Ross
·Northwestern
·Berkeley
·UCLA</p>

<p>Safety:
·UCSD & all other UC’s</p>

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<p>slipper, my concern w/ the list you put up is it seems kinda reach heavy. it looks like it would be very likely that i would end up at one of the giant public UC's, which I would rather not do (or at least not be limited solely to the UC system)</p>

<p>If you would look at my stats maybe you could tell me if you'd think that I have a good chance of getting into Princeton, Dartmouth, Wharton, Stanford, Duke, or Northwestern (not all of them, just one).</p>

<p>Wharton is my clear 1st choice, but I might not do ED so I can hopefully get all A's again & show them that I truly am an "A student."</p>

<p>Here's the link
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=72651%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=72651&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Actually, if he is applying directly to Ross, then Michigan is a reach. This fall, Michigan will only accept 50 students into Ross. Even if only 1,000 students apply to Ross, we are talking about a sub 10% acceptance rate. If you are applying to Michigan LSA, then I agree, Michigan is a match.</p>

<p>As for schools that fit his criteria, I would say that Slipper's list is spot on. I would, however, substitute UCLA with Chicago.</p>

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<p>Alexandre, I left UCLA since I assumed Stam was California in-state. But, yeah, your stats would be helpful, my list IS pretty top-heavy.</p>

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<p>Just a note on Princeton. While Princeton is growing its freshman class over the next few years, when I visited I believe they said that most of the spots would be for engineering majors because they are trying to strengthen that part of the school.</p>

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<p>Slipper, yes I am a California resident. And my stats are posted above...I'd appreciate if you were able to answer the question I asked above as well (when you get a chance).</p>

<p>Also Slipper-- where do you currently attend? Dartmouth?</p>

<p>Thanks for your help.</p>

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<p>I also have learned that Northwestern is not considering the writing section, which should help me considerably. And as you probably know, Stanford, Michigan, the UC system, & Princeton completely disregard freshman grades (which will also help me).</p>

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<p>Whoops! Saw the stats, here's how I would apply:</p>

<p>Super Reach:
.Princeton
.Stanford</p>

<p>Reach
.Dartmouth
·Duke
.Penn (College as Econ major)</p>

<p>Lesser Reach:
·Northwestern
.Chicago</p>

<p>Match
·Berkeley
·UCLA
.Tufts
.Emory
·Michigan (perhaps apply to the college then transfer)</p>

<p>Safety:
·UCSD & all other UC’s</p>

<p>I would apply to one of the reaches, not super-reaches, ED.</p>

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<p>yikes, that was discouraging. anything i can do to have a better shot for the fall?</p>

<p>the IIC should go up. not sure if i am going to retake SAT I for writing (the 1540 minus writing is pretty solid, for me at least).</p>

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<p>Stambliark - Applying to Wharton ED would help you MUCH more than the jump in # of A's; you're only talking one extra term, and it won't make that much of a difference. My advice would be to apply early, and do really well first term.</p>

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<p>Also, REALLY try to get into the top 10% overall. It will be a big boost. Although you have huge GPA improvement, Wharton ED is a stretch I think but perhaps your ECs will put you through. I would aim for the non super-reaches personally.</p>

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<p>"I would aim for the non super-reaches personally."</p>

<p>By this are you suggesting I not apply ED to Wharton?</p>

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<p>any good schools to look at that are more of a match?</p>