<p>Pls. advise which New England state Delbarton would be located in. :)</p>
<p>NJ 10 char</p>
<p>NJ is not part of new england</p>
<p>Darn, off by one state.</p>
<p>fun is fun, I would say Collegiate is stronger academically than Roxbury Latin. I know it's not in NE, but you said in the country in your post.</p>
<p>seoul358 --- Brown and Cornell are vastly different in terms of admissions stats. I do alumni interviewing for Brown.</p>
<p>depends on the school u r applying to at cornell, u apply to specific colleges</p>
<p>ARGH CORNELL, why do u hav to mention that name...</p>
<p>For academics, Roxbury Latin. For all-around experiences, including academics, sports, school spirit, and ethical values, this one isn't even close. St. John's School in Danvers, Mass is the best all-around boys' school in the nation, in my opinion, and I am pretty knowledgeable about both day and boarding schools both in the U.S. and the U.K.</p>
<p>It's hard to measure school spirit and ethical value. How competitive are their exmissions to the top colleges? I'm not saying this is the defining criteria, I'm just curious, because I haven't seen this school on any national list ranking the best High Schools.</p>
<p>As per the college admin office at my d school; harvard accepts about 2000 students each year, of these a whopping 75 or so are accepted on academic merit. Hooks and more Hooks get's you into these school's! Its been said over and over, you need HOOKS to be a viable candidate. </p>
<p>We can go on and on as to what the best school's are but, a school has never guaranteed anyone success in college matrics or in life. Especially life, so it is wise that all HS students give these school's a reason to accept you. Frankly, if harvard is your goal, be a very good squash player with no financial need and have good grades and you probably have a 60% chance of gaining admission whether you go to Public school USA or Collegiate or wherever it is you think is the best. You must have Hooks!</p>
<p>What about Tennis Player?</p>
<p>Measuring St. John's admissions to the top colleges is different because the school is very community oriented and Catholic. I would say that, based on my research, the average kid wants to go to Boston College, Holy Cross, St. Anselm's College, Georgetown, and Notre Dame in roughly that order. Ergo, most get into either the number one or number two choice. For those who are not Catholic, and not particularly oriented to a Catholic college, they tend to get into either their number one or two choice. Brown, Dartmouth, and Harvard are the most popular Ivies.</p>
<p>Ethical values tends to correlate with life choices, and one of, if not the most important life choices, is vocation. Many St. John's grads gravitate to non-profit community vocations or the helping professions. Less ethically oriented private schools tend to prepare their graduates for consulting, Investment Banking, or Law. That is one metric I tend to use in assessing ethical values and proclivities.</p>
<p>Sounds nice, but very narrow in the type of student that would be attracted to this school. In addition, from what you've described, nothing says best all around boys school. It's just nice for this type of young man. Covenant of the Sacred Heart in NYC has a similar mission for girls. Nice school, but nowhere near best all around girls.</p>
<p>Btw, Aren't you being a little judgemental in your assessment of schools that prepare students to earn money for a living.</p>
<p>If there is such a thing as "best" the answer is Roxbury Latin, small 7-12 school in Boston. Low tuition. High endowment. Not for everyone. They seem to cross-pollenate faculty with Collegiate and other outstanding schools.</p>
<p>I say Delbarton and I'm not backing down and wimping out like SweetLax88 did.</p>
<p>The question relates to all of New England. So in that case, if you're willing to travel that far, across a large expanse, why not agree to go just a wee bit farther -- into Morris County, NJ -- where there's a very New England feel...except that you get to root for the Yankees instead of that team of perennial also-rans that plays in a cramped chowder house? It's like New England...only better.</p>
<p>Delbarton is a day school -- just how far do you want the commute to be?
Good school -- not even remotely in RL's class.</p>
<p>Shannnyc, I've done extensive research on private schools, particularly in New England where I live. I stand by my contention that St. John's is not only the best boy's school in New England, but in the nation. Let me quote from some of the publications that have researched the school:</p>
<p>From The Harvard Independent, Copyright 1984-5, page 175- "St. John's School in Danvers, Massachusetts is without doubt one of the finest schools in the state(Massachusetts). In fact, it would not be an overstatement to assert that it is one of the better day schools anywhere".
From Boston Magazine, September 2006 issue: From page 207 "St. John's Prep students do even better in the college admissions game than they do in athletic competitions: 85% get into one of their top two picks". On page 198 it mentions that "as part of a 32 million dollar upgrade, the school has opened a library, made its Danvers campus into a 50 acre wireless hot spot, and outfitted its classrooms with smart board technology...".
I visited the school. It's facilities are far more extensive than Roxbury Latin, although the student body is much, much, larger.</p>
<p>I sought to understand why the average SAT scores for the school as a whole was so low(about 1230 combined under the old SAT scoring system). Since it is a large school, and very Catholic, it uses the Diocesan entrance exam for most of its students, giving rise to a great deal of variability in the quality of the students there. However, there is a solid non-Catholic contingent there, and they take the SSAT, with scores trending to the 90 percentile. The best students there are as good as Andover or Exeter. However, once you go below this cream layer, the quality of the student body is more in line with public schools like Weston, Dover, Scarsdale, or New Trier.</p>
<p>The original missions for schools like Groton was to provide the highest caliber secondary education possible for students to ascend to the highest levels in providing public service. Schools like Groton, Andover, Exeter, and St. Paul's have largely abandoned this mission, and are producing students more inclined to investment banking, consulting, corporate law, etc. There is nothing wrong with this, it just is not an egalitarian ethos. St. John's has students who pursue these career paths as well, it's just that the school, from what I've learned, attempts on a daily basis, consonant with its historical mission, to instill students with a sense that helping the less fortunate is the highest calling. Just my .02 and observation.</p>
<p>I know a lot of people who are attending "The Prep" and they all are very enthusiastic about the school. It has great facilities in comparison to most of the other mass catholic schools like BC High, Xavarian, CM etc. In addition, I think that SJP has a great community feel and its alumni network is great in Massachusetts. Several newspapers have proclaimed that SJP has the best sports fans and after attending a few playoff hockey games with my friends, I have to agree.</p>
<p>I would say Georgetown, St. Aban's or Avon Old Farms.... depends on what you're interested in, and if you care if it's in NE. I personally think Gtown has the best facillities. Avon OF has a lot of respect for in athletics.</p>
<p>Pinderhughes, I don't want to give you a hard time on this one. The school's mission seems honorable, as do you. But, every time you post something about this school, it contradicts your assertion. With SAT scores that low it simply can't be considered the "best" boys school in the nation. Even the publications you quoted say "one of the better". It sounds like a good school, I just think it's a stretch to consider it the best in New England let alone the nation. I still think that moniker belongs to Collegiate.</p>