<p>I think that this thread must be deleted as well as black thread. They instigate the racial discrimination. Indian thread is based on citizenship, so it can exist. But "yellow, white, black" threads are discriminative by nature.</p>
<p>I would agree that this thread should be deleted even if I began it but ONLY if the black thread is deleted. It is discriminatory to delete this and not the black thread which is the main point I am trying to make.</p>
<p>Are you serious about whites not having their own scholarship an injustice?</p>
<p>Your comparing not having a white scholarships to minorities not having equal rights to an education for decades.</p>
<p>Actually some university students asked themselves exactly the same thing -and then set up a "white scholarship" for about $250. It caused a lot of controversy...
In this case, I think the government needs to stop promising to deliver what it won't. If they are never going to give reparation in the form of land, then they should say so; so that people can't say that the Japanese etc. were compensated for WWII yet they still haven't gotten their share...two wrongs don't make a right but saying that all people should be treated equally is not right either; because women need to leave work during pregnancy, don't they? I doubt you'd expect them to go into labour in their office; yet men don't require maternal leave. (though in Japan they want to implement a mandatory leave for men to look after children). The same thing goes for culture. Some people grow up in a house of legacies, rolling in money and opportunities, while others raise their siblings. Scholarships were made to level the playing field for cultures based on merit and need, not for the colour of one's skin (Hispanic isn't a colour. Black is being debated) You have to take into consideration the history of the people - so to be more exact, all people should be made equal (or given chances that make them equal, such as financial aid). You run into problems when you classify people by colour (such as black/African-American) why is why idiots like Sharpton start complaining that those that get into the Ivies (or predominantly white schools) are not they ones that should be getting in - they are the smart Blacks, but they are African (as in parents from Africa, etc. ) instead of 3rd, 4th or 5th generation African-American. Who's pointing the finger now?</p>
<p>So in effect the OP has a point. Caucasians are treated differently from other races and he wants to discuss why. I just hope most of you realize there is no comparison with the way Caucasions are treated with regards to others, after all , they're still the majority. At least he had enought tact not to name the thread "White students Unite!!!" That would have brought the server down because we are oversensitive and brainwashed to be politically correct, to avoid what may offend anyone, even the chihuahua next door .</p>
<p>Good post apple. I agree with what you are saying. I don't think that you can compare white treatment to that of black for instance, but it is getting ridiculous seeing the crazy PCness that has infiltrated our culture. My next thread might be called "White students unite!".....</p>
<p>Do you know which college was the one where the students started that scholarship?</p>
<p>You should google it. I seem to recall an online article as well.</p>
<p>I'll give that a shot. Thanks.</p>
<p>I'm not condoning any of this, but for your information:
Here</a> it is</p>
<p>Wow what a thread!</p>
<p>I just have one question: Why do people always group us together as "whites," as if that's a ethnicity? We're actually more like German-Americans, French-Americans, English-Americans, Russian-Americans, Greek-Americans, Polish-Americans, Finnish-Americans, etc. On applications, information forms, etc. they have spots for Asian-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, African-Americans, and Native Americans (all ethnicities from actual places). Why then do we not have other countries or at least European-American on the forms instead of the color white? What if your skin color really isn't white (more like dark tan because you're not English-American), but you're not African-, Hispanic-, Native-, or Asian-American? What about immigrants who come over here from Europe. Do they consider themselves "white"?</p>
<p>I definitely am against the white oppression back in the old days, but now since our generation had nothing to do with it, why should we be punished?</p>
<p>White oppression is something horribly wrong that happened in history, but I think it's time now to do what our Declaration and our Consitution says: to treat everyone equally, with no one having priviledges above other people just because of their ethnicity or skin color (why is skin color such a big deal anyway?).</p>
<p>I believe there is nothing wrong with this thread and that we should just get back to the point: giving stats.</p>
<p>Note: this is not meant to be racist, offend anyone, or hurt anyone's feelings; I apologize if some people (which inevitably there will be) dislike my post.</p>
<p>In the US being black has nothing to do with color.....I'm light brown...my father is dark brown....and my mother is "high yellow"......what I think most people would agree that being black means having a shared history flowing through your veins.</p>
<p>You make a good point, but does that mean that "white" people have a shared history flowing through their veins? I'm part Mongolian, which I wouldn't consider "white" at all, yet I'm called "white" just because my skin color is white (due to ancestors from European nations). I'm sure that Germans, Russians, Italians, and the British don't believe they are interconnected. Neither do I believe (not meaning any offense to you at all) that everyone in Africa (especially when you consider all the civil wars there) believes they are all interconnected. And neither in Asia. Therefore, I think that when one talks about ethnicity, one should discuss the countries, not the continents, people are from. Also, most people don't talk about "black" people. The pc term is African-American. All I'm saying is that the pc term on forms for "white" people should be European-American or whatever.</p>
<p>I don't think that "white" people have a shared history; its just that the US has just had such a terrible time dealing with race that anyone who looked white has become "white". </p>
<p>Even though the term "African"-American is pc.....it does not make it right. It is no secret that most blacks in the US are a mix of African, European, and Native American blood and heritage. So in a sense "African"-American does not tell the whole history of blacks in the US, and even more so, it connects blacks to a place that is nothing merely than a continent for most.</p>
<p>I agree completely with you smithk, I am somewhat aginst the term African-American when it refers to Blacks living in America, because I think the only people who deserve the entitlement of African-American are immigrants from Africa. Being Black, is being of a mixed descent including African, yet residing in America. But I don't think white people are called White because America has difficulty dealing with race. White people are considered White for the same reason Blacks are considered Black. So I say more power to your whole "White Students" thread, whatever floats your boat, I just think some of the people on CC are bloodthirsty for an argument. Just let him be.
Proceed with the stats.</p>
<p>What is extremely irritating to me is that a black in America of Native American, European, and African heritage is automatically African American, but an American citizen from South Africa is white and does not receive the same entitlements or benefits as blacks even though they are actually African American.</p>
<p>the last time I checked african-american means the blacks in the US descended from the slaves and few black indentured servents.</p>
<p>People treat blacks a certain way based on the color of there skin. Even though a white south african is from africa he would not be treated like african americans or had the same background and you know that. Don't play dumb.</p>
<p>Yeah smith I mean you pointed out the obvious. What I was referring to was a black from Cambodia in America is African American while a person from S. Africa in America is white. We need to be realistic and just say white and black if we are going to treat groups in this manner.</p>
<p>once again...."african"-american refers to blacks descended from slaves...this term does not include immigrants from Africa. Many immigrants from Africa that i know just call themselves African.</p>
<p>That is my whole point! Why are blacks who descended from slaves or didn't (as many didn't ) given blanket status as African - American??</p>
<p>The way I see it blacks are given these entitlements because of current descrimination and past descrimination. The people that look black are going to be treated like one by society and ones that look white will be treated as whites. So it does not really matter what they are because the point is to try to make up for the treatment with these entitlements.</p>
<p>As for the benefits given to level the playing field because of past discriminations, it is not fair that people that do not have a family history of opression to get them. But most black scholarships are for the current disadvantages or of the two disadvantages anyway.</p>
<p>Does this make any since?</p>