why do hipsters get so much flack?

<p>i am not a hipster per se, but i was given a gift (partly as a joke), hipster wear (vintage thundercats shirt, and super slim jeans from levis? i think), well i was curious to see the reaction of people in seeing me in a new 'light', but unfortunately i got so much $hit from it. I usually wear tshirts and shorts everyday. The dramatic difference in style might have contributed to all the crap i got.</p>

<p>but i got crap from random people that didn't even know me:</p>

<p>ex. (in a whisper) omg look at that hipster! etc.
they seemed to use the word in such a derogatory way.
i got weird looks from everyone i saw. it felt really awkward, and it made me look at the ground all day. </p>

<p>personally, i thought the jeans looked good. i am slightly underweight and it made me look fuller. </p>

<p>what's the deal? i mean, why would you care what the person wears? its just clothing. </p>

<p>today is the last time i will be wearing tight jeans. but i am keeping the shirt. i loved thundercats as a little kid</p>

<p>Wear what you want. There will always be critics, but much less if you conform completely to the social norm of your area. But wouldn’t that be boring to be part of a cookie cutter society.</p>

<p>^ Nope. </p>

<p>10 char</p>

<p>because hipsters are clowns as long as you dont drink pabst blue ribbon you should be ok, and honestly haters gunna hate man</p>

<p>From UrbanDictionary.com:</p>

<p>Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20’s and 30’s that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although “hipsterism” is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too “edgy” for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The “effortless cool” urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent’s trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional “rules” of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and “Britney Spears tube-tops” are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. “distressed”), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural “norms” have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can’t keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.
A conversation outside a hipster bar in downtown NYC:</p>

<p>Frat Boy #1: Dude, are you having any luck picking up chicks in there?</p>

<p>Frat Boy #2: Man…I haven’t experienced anything like this before. These chicks are totally rejecting me and going for all these hipster guys in tight pants and shaggy hair instead.</p>

<p>Frat Boy #1: Maybe we should head back up to that bar in Murry Hill where you hooked up with that drunk b*tch from Alpha Sigma Phi last week?</p>

<p>Frat Boy #2: Yeah…I don’t think we have what it takes to compete with these guys in here. These hipster chicks won’t even give us the time of the day!</p>

<p>because the hipster look is supposed to be all unconventional, unique, creative blah blah blah but in the end a hipster looks just like all the other hipsters, so there’s really nothing original about any of them.</p>

<p>Perspective from Wikipedia (emphasis mine):</p>

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<p>I think it’s because they’re seen as attention-seeking because they want to be unique/weird just for the sake of being unique/weird. A lot of people also think it’s just a phase that they’ll eventually outgrow when they mature, and people who’ve already outgrown the style think the hipsters just don’t know any better and are oblivious to how bad they come across (not saying I agree with this). You’d be hard-pressed to find “hipster” wear at law, business, and med schools for example. Grad school is more likely but even there, there’s an understanding that hipster=pretentious. It depends on the environment though of course. There’s greater tolerance for it in poorer areas because people there tend to not overthink what it means.</p>

<p>People also associate them with radicalism, which has a stigma because many radicals people are too blind/ignorant to consider all sides of a story. They think they’re the only progressives out there and hate on people who see the value of some conservative viewpoints. A lot of them don’t even know what “liberal” means. Many are caught up in identity politics, which I think is really sad and counterproductive.</p>

<p>I didn’t read the post above, but I can only assume it is some hipster talking about how awesome he thinks he is. Regardless, I will tell you guys why hipsters are the worst people in the world. </p>

<p>-Hipsters are the type of people who are rich as hell, yet they will go out of their way to look poor in order to be more “authentic.” They will spend obscene amounts of money to buy torn up clothes or other crap you could get at a thrift store. They are the types of people who get haircuts to make it look like their hair is messed up or something along those lines.</p>

<p>-The guys wear clothes tighter than those of a teenage girl in a desperate attempt for attention. </p>

<p>-Hipsters are the type of people who only like obscure indie bands no one has ever heard of. God forbid that same band becomes somewhat popular or a song of theirs gets on the radio, that band is immediately crappy and too “mainstream.” </p>

<p>-Hipsters are the type of people who move in to low income neighborhoods to try to seem authentic. Just take a look at Brooklyn. They have basically invaded and driven up the prices of homes and apartments so the people who were living there before can no longer afford it. </p>

<p>-Hipsters always say they’re “not looking for attention”, yet go out of their way to look like schmucks and succeed with flying colors every time.</p>

<p>The main thing anyone should take away from this post is this: Hipsters try to be unique and different and not conform, yet that is exactly what they are doing and they are to dumb to realize it.</p>

<p>I’m getting ****ed just thinking about this, so I might finish this later. In the mean time you guys can check out these websites:
[Look</a> at this ■■■■■■■ hipster](<a href=“http://www.latfh.com/]Look”>http://www.latfh.com/)
[diehipster.com</a> – ■■■■ the hipsters!](<a href=“Private Site”>http://diehipster.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/)</p>

<p>These ******s in action
[YouTube</a> - Car Runs over bicycle At Critical Mass ride](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7uY9ydMYc&feature=player_embedded#]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7uY9ydMYc&feature=player_embedded#)!</p>

<p>Defending a hipster is just as bad as being a hipster.</p>

<p>Take a look at the old SNL skits of “Deeeiter” and friend, for a marvelous peek at Berliner hipsters (and how dated the look is.)</p>

<p>Because, as someone else previously quoted, hipsters supposedly value

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<p>But really this isn’t any different from what EVERY TEENAGER EVER has wanted in the history of forever. We all want to be special little snowflakes. Hipsters just pretend like this movement is new and never-before-done.</p>

<p>Yeah, hipsters value “independent thinking”. That’s why they do whatever Pitchfork Media and VICE magazine tell them to do.</p>

<p>Why do hipsters get so much flack?</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Because they are “unique.”</p></li>
<li><p>Because too many are condescending and act pretentious. People don’t like it when other look down on them. To be honest, I have seen this before, where hipsters act like they are special and everyone else is lame. The arrogance can be annoying.</p></li>
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<p>Disclaimer: I have a hipster friend who acts nothing like this. I am merely generalizing statements others have made.</p>

<p>Also, for a funny, if demeaning, perspective on the flak hipsters take, look here:
[Look</a> at this ■■■■■■■ hipster](<a href=“http://www.latfh.com/]Look”>http://www.latfh.com/)</p>

<p>Move to my neck of the hood in downtown NYC and you will quickly see why they get a lot of heat. </p>

<p>To generalize a bit–it’s not how they dress–I could careless if someone chooses to waltz down Columbus wearing a chicken costume; it’s their attitude. (Once again, disclaimer that I’m
generalizing) they have a horrible attitude of “I’m artsy and angsty and I’m not mainstrem. The world doesn’t get my offbeat way. I’m better than everyone whose not like me–but somehow, I still swear I’m original.”
And to be moderately hypocritical–they’re incredibly judgemental. Walk into a coffee shop or restaurant that’s majority hipster territory and they will stare you down, snub you, and be rude, like “how dare you normal people walk among us.”</p>

<p>it’s irritating.</p>

<p>[YouTube</a> - Car Runs over bicycle At Critical Mass ride](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7uY9ydMYc&feature=player_embedded#]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7uY9ydMYc&feature=player_embedded#)</p>

<p>^ Why were they swerving in front of cars? That idiot deserved what he got.</p>

<p>Because there’s no reason for a guy to be wearing his girlfriend’s jeans.</p>

<p>That first reply is the worst advice ever.</p>

<p>“Yeah, dress like a nazi if you want to, forget about all the people trying to shoot you. =]]]]]]]]”</p>

<p>Anyways, I find hipsters try too hard to put off this different image.</p>

<p>It’s unfortunate for you because you just like some clothes even though you’re not necessarily a “hipster”</p>

<p>because…it’s so easy to make fun of them with their multiple scarfs and “individuality”</p>

<p>nah, I’ve just known one “hipster” but I’d always rag on him about it because his band didn’t make the high school talent show and he was pretty much a dick about how cool he thought he was</p>

<p>I really don’t get the attacks against the clothes, hipster clothes are hot. Maybe it’s because I’m gay so I actually like the somewhat feminine androgynous “Uke” guy look (in spite of being Uke myself -cough cough-). And the rejection of All-American macho boy and Britney Spears/Paris Hilton girl personas/fashions… that’s actually a healthier outlook if you ask me. I won’t necessarily reject friendships with those types of people but oftentimes they behave like rich entitled spoiled brats. Yeah I suppose that hipsters can be just as bad but I can’t stand the way they’re (or any “progressive” or “hippie-looking” group are) portrayed in shows like King of the Hill where their good ideas are lumped in with the bad.</p>