<p>And it's not even close to being true at Caltech or MIT.</p>
<p>ok so to simplify the answer and make it direct: it's not true?</p>
<p>so what happens when Harvard ranks #2 next year? Is all heck gonna break loose?</p>
<p>Based on stats for the Class of 2009? Possible, but unlikely. </p>
<p>The % of alumni contributors will be down, however thanks to the incorporation, for the first time, of Radcliffe numbers.</p>
<p>Although Harvard has a very big name (mainly because of its grad programs), its undergraduate program is definitely not number one (still good, like other top schools). If you try to find some undergraduate programs/majors rankings, you will find that Harvard rarely made it to the top three. </p>
<p>Go to Harvard grad school is more impressive than Harvard undergrad.</p>
<p>The USNews rankings -"America's Best Colleges" - are of undergraduate institutions. </p>
<p>Harvard has been ranked #1 more often than all other institutions put together.</p>
<p>"The % of alumni contributors will be down, however thanks to the incorporation, for the first time, of Radcliffe numbers."</p>
<p>why haven't they been incorporated before now?</p>
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<p>i always found that ranking strange.. because on the title it says best colleges but in the actual ranks they put i.e. - harvard university. is there a reason for that?</p>
<p>It had to do with a "treaty" of sorts many years ago, when Raqdcliffe was incorporated into Harvard for all intents and purposes. </p>
<p>An agreement was made that Harvard would not "poach" on Radcliffe grads on behalf of the Harvard College Fund for a period of time, and that the 'Cliffies would only be solicited, by a residual Alumnae group, for "The Radcliffe Institute".</p>
<p>The agreement expired last year, but the "new" Harvard alumnae (almost all of whom received Harvard degrees anyway) now have the "pleasure" of being solicited on behalf of Mother Harvard for the first time. Their giving rate - not surprisingly, under all the circumstances - is far lower at this stage.</p>
<p>They also put "Yale University" rather than "Yale College."</p>
<p>But all the ranking criteria relate to undergraduate institutions.</p>
<p>"The USNews rankings -"America's Best Colleges" - are of ndergraduate institutions."</p>
<p>try to find any ranking from Gourment Report (which ranks particular majors), Harvard is never #1 in any of particular major rankings; why is it still the "best" college ranked by "USNews and World Report," I have no idea.</p>
<p>simple: its raw numbers produce the highest score (tied with princeton) when run through u.s. news's rankings formula. your quibble, therefore, is with the rankings formula itself. that is, unless you allege that harvard "cooks the books" that provide its numbers. such allegation is sometimes leveled against penn.</p>
<p>lol yes, i was just curious why they never bothered to put college instead of univeristy. ! do have an answer to my question about interviews yet? sorry to be pestering! thank you though =)</p>
<p>It's not a matter of hating... When it comes to HPY, it's often a matter of personal preference. All three schools are certainly incredible places, but they're sometimes not for everyone.</p>
<p>As I've already posted elsewhere, I'm turning down Harvard for Princeton. It's not because I hate Harvard, or because I think Harvard sucks. It's because one school simply felt more like home.</p>
<p>Sorry, no pun intended. Have a D @ Pton, a S @ Yale. Looked obsessively at HYP, frankly because of prestige. Looked at Columbia because NYC and core. Looked at Georgetown because it is plugged in to DC, the hub of power in the
US. Loved them all. In the end, they went where they felt best. Harvard definitely has the best rep, but you don't have to hate it to turn it down. You just have to have the maturity to recognize the place you like best is not ranked #1. Harvard hatred as well as Harvard hubris does seem to loom very large on some people's psyche.</p>
<p>I do find that Harvard Syndrome article incredible. I realise it's meant to be humurous, but it isn't. There's no wit to it, merely a variety of repititions of "We're #1, we're #1!" Seriously, is that what they call journalism at Harvard? It's a genuinely interesting and significant issue to investigate, and the writer sets it up well, and than collapses into a fit of self-congratulation.</p>
<p>that's ross g. douthat for you. a really smart guy - just ask him.</p>
<p>Haha... I'd like to point out that Princeton IS #1.</p>
<p>Sorry... I couldn't help myself.</p>
<p>I Love Harvard</p>
<p>Princeton is #1 on your list, but not everyone elses.</p>