Why is NYU not in the "CC Top Universities" category?

<p>You have no way to prove that. NYU nor UM release the SAT scores of all of their applicants. You have absolutely no idea what SAT range/GPA range applied to NYU or UM. The acceptance rate is completely arbitrary information since you have no idea WHY the acceptance rate is X%. Until you can prove that the acceptance rate is X% because of YZB factors, it’s a completely irrelevant piece of information.
And you’re also apparently still disregarding the fact that the statistics that you’re arguing over are the attending students. Not the accepted students. The attending students is a loose approximation of what the accepted students actual scores MAY be.</p>

<p>undertaker1664/ Higher GPA, Lower SAT/ACT, Higher admission rate. Still doesn’t prove your case. </p>

<p>We’ve been through this already… Michigan has higher SAT/ACT…</p>

<p>And princeton review gives Michigan a higher selectivity rating…</p>

<p>NYU2013</p>

<p>If you have no way to prove it, then don’t make any premature judgements about it.</p>

<p>And of course I’m talking about the scores of attending students and that would be much more fair tool to use for comparison between two schools then to just compare the scores of accepted students, because there could be a lot of students with high scores that won’t end up attending that school.</p>

<p>And keep in mind I am not biased. I got into both schools and I will not be attending either of them.</p>

<p>And you’re also apparently still disregarding the fact that the statistics that you’re arguing over are the attending students. Not the accepted students. The attending students is a loose approximation of what the accepted students actual scores MAY be.</p>

<p>No they’re not… they’re for accepted students</p>

<p>undertaker1664</p>

<p>I just showed you the numbers and you still prefer to ignore the facts. Bravo.</p>

<p>If you understood how that statistics worked… You would know that’s attending students, not accepted students. E.g. all statistics off collegeboard or the links provided below are first-year students. Meaning those students who were accepted and are currently attending, who submitted their SAT or ACT scores. </p>

<p>So… I’ll let you two high school seniors duke it out, since neither of you understands statistical relevance and/or are completely against accepting the knowledge of someone who is further along in their education and has more experience than you.</p>

<p>Okay even better. If those are attending students it portrays that NYU is not a top university because the kids that go there are so low on the academic scale.</p>

<p>undertaker1664</p>

<p>And so does Michigan, Emory and all the rest groups.</p>

<p>Stop engaging in wishful thinking and check the facts first. Most of the schools I mentioned in the first post have a GPA range of 3.7 ~ 3.9 and SAT range of roughly 1900 ~ 2200. That’s almost identical to NYU’s and in some cases, NYU shows better numbers. Of course I’m not trying to argue this is all that matters in deciding which school should be regarded as top university. Just don’t try to make false claims regarding the stats. Numbers don’t lie.</p>

<p>BTW, GPA range of 3.7~ 3.9 and SAT range of 1900 ~ 2200 is not low on the academic scale, it’s slightly below that of what one might refer to as “lower ivies.” Even Harvard’s average stats look something like GPA 3.9 SAT 2050 ~ 2370. It’s just mere numbers and doesn’t tell you everything about the university, but don’t expect a top school to have an average GPA of 4.0 and average SAT score of 2400.</p>

<p>Most of the schools I mentioned in the first post have a GPA range of 3.7 ~ 3.9</p>

<p>Not NYU’s LOL theirs is a 3.6</p>

<p>Here’s what happened:</p>

<p>-OP chose NYU over some “better” schools.
-OP’s friends/teachers are like “lol why would you do that!?”
-OP is regretting his decision and is now trying to justify to himself that he made the right choice.</p>

<p>Just go to NYU. If you’re having doubts, that’s your problem–don’t let others discourage you.
That you had the audacity to make this thread is pathetic and just makes you look insecure.</p>

<p>/thread</p>

<p>To be honest while NYU may deserve it, I think there are other schools that aren’t that deserve it more. In my opinion Georgia Tech and USC have the biggest gripes, NYU would be in that second tier with schools like Tufts, BC and Wake Forest. The fact of the matter is a very large amount of NYU’s academic reputation hinges on Stern and Tisch, two of the finest programs available in their fields, but the rest of the school isn’t nearly on their level, and since those are two very specialized fields and ranking a school overall has to include everything, I think it’s fair that they aren’t a CC top university. To say that, as a whole, NYU is on the level of schools like UNC, Umich, UVA and Emory is a bit of a stretch. I’m not trying to put it down, but it’s just a tier lower. As for the people bashing Umich’s admission standards, the overall % isn’t the real number we should value, it’s the OOS %. They HAVE to take a certain amount from in state, so if their state happens to be lacking in a given year or set of years of course their total stats are going to drop, but the out of state students at Michigan are on par with almost any school in the nation, and regardless of who they let in Michigan provides a better education to their students than almost any school out there.</p>

<p>Well put, hotpotato</p>

<p>@ JoJo
haha you are so right. this thread is freaking hilarious.
it’s basically a fight between one kid who is trying to feel good about choosing nyu and another kid whose crying because the nyu dental program he got into isn’t as “prestigious” as he thought.</p>

<p>get a real campus before you start asking for CC Top University accolades. </p>

<p>On the bright side, if CC invented a “Top Cluster of Random Buildings About a Large Metro Area”, NYU would be a shoe-in.</p>

<p>It’s not about how sought after a school is, or what the incoming class average scores are. It’s about the universities programs, and hotpotato put that in perspective well. A school like NYU can choose to bring in a strong freshmen class simply because it has a large number of applicants who just want a reason to be in NYC.</p>

<p>Obutto, exactly. NYU isn’t as prestigious as I thought…</p>

<p>undertaker1664</p>

<p>No need to vent your insecurity over “Emory’s status within Top 20” in this way. Just go and read another edition of USNWR since that’s all you care about in this very diverse and complex world. Putting down other schools doesn’t make your school of choice somehow better. This is pathetic.</p>