Why is UCR known for UC Reject or UC Retards?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Riverside
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<p>Where are these stereotypes coming from? Is it because many assume that people who go to ucr are people who got rejected from other UC schools? But isn't UCR still a "UC school"?? I don't understand why people who go to ucr whine about not getting into a better school. I personally think UCR is a GREAT school compared to any other school in the United States. Many people who go to ucr may not have been accepted to other UC schools, but I've seen some UCR people getting accepted to other good schools outside of california. (Some people got accepted to Georgia Tech, Purdue, Virginia Tech, Michigan State, Indiana University, Case Western Reserve, Arizona State, Ohio State or Texas A&M, but chose to go to UCR because some wanted to stay in California and some didn't want to pay for out-of-state tuition). I think that's how good UC Schools (UCI, UC Davis, UCLA, etc.) are and hard to get into. Even UCLA and UC Berkeley are comparable to Ivy League Schools. So I wouldn't want to call UCR a reject school. Oh by the way, people who got accepted to UCR also got accepted to UCSC, Cal States and UC Merced. I don't even think UCR students are retarded because I have seen some 4.0 students with 2100 SAT score only getting into UCR from UC schools. But the majority of ppl I know usually have about 3.7-3.8 gpa in high school. People who go to UCR should be more PROACTIVE and more ENTHUSIASTIC about their college.</p>

<p>People who go to UCR also complain about how boring the area is. But why not just be proactive and try to find something fun??? Purdue University (which is in the middle of nowhere in the state of Indiana) always have something going on at school. UCR also has a lot of stuff going on at school ! If you guys look at their college reviews on the websites, Purdue students say great things about their college even though the area is boring, whereas many UCR students always complain about how boring the area is. Why not just go to L.A., San Diego, or Big Bear to have fun then? Indiana doesn't have anything fun like that. And Indiana students are still having fun there. </p>

<p>Seriously, where are these stereotypes coming from??? I really wish someone could break the stereotypes about UCR.</p>

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<p>Might want to read this…</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-riverside/687567-where-did-ucrs-stereotype-come.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-riverside/687567-where-did-ucrs-stereotype-come.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>People should really know the facts about the school before they get so dumb that their only option will be Stanford.</p>

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<p>“Even UCLA and UC Berkeley are comparable to Ivy League Schools. So I wouldn’t want to call UCR a reject school.”</p>

<p>That totally did not make sense. I agree to the first sentence but I don’t see how the next one has anything to do with the first. UCLA, and Cal are way on top of UCR for you to compare them as similar. UCR is a good school and I’m not bashing on it but please don’t compare Cal/UCLA with UCR. That’s blasphemy. </p>

<p>“Oh by the way, people who got accepted to UCR also got accepted to UCSC, Cal States and UC Merced.”</p>

<p>You do know that UCSC isn’t much of a high-tier UC school. The high tier UC’s are Cal, UCLA, and UCSD. Mid-tier are UCD, UCI, UCSB. Lower-tier are UCSC, UCR, and UCM. </p>

<p>Cal States are below UC’s (but some are comparable to UCI and UCD — like Cal Poly SLO and maybe Pomona). </p>

<p>I’d be more impressed if someone who got into UCLA, Cal, or UCSD turned all those down for UCR. Besides, I can understand why people would complain. Not getting into your dream school and settling for a different one will definitely set some people off and feed the stereotypes. It usually goes away, but the feeling is still there.</p>

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<p>“That totally did not make sense. I agree to the first sentence but I don’t see how the next one has anything to do with the first. UCLA, and Cal are way on top of UCR for you to compare them as similar. UCR is a good school and I’m not bashing on it but please don’t compare Cal/UCLA with UCR. That’s blasphemy.”</p>

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<li>I think maybe you misinterpreted what I was trying to say or maybe I confused you. Sorry if I confused you, but I was referring the “So I wouldn’t want to call UCR a reject school” to the whole paragraph, not the “Even UCLA and UC Berkeley are comparable to Ivy League Schools.” Heck I wouldn’t compare UCR to UCLA, UC Berkeley, or Ivy League schools. I was just trying to say that some UC schools like UCLA and UC Berkeley are as good as Ivy League schools. </li>
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<p>“You do know that UCSC isn’t much of a high-tier UC school. The high tier UC’s are Cal, UCLA, and UCSD. Mid-tier are UCD, UCI, UCSB. Lower-tier are UCSC, UCR, and UCM”</p>

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<li>Yes. I already know UCSC, UCR, and UCM are not in a high-tier of UC schools. The reason why I stated that people who got into UCR also got accepted to UCSC or UCM is because I just wanted to break the stereotype of “UC rejects”. I wasn’t even talking about whether UCR is a high-tier school or not.</li>
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<p>“I’d be more impressed if someone who got into UCLA, Cal, or UCSD turned all those down for UCR. Besides, I can understand why people would complain. Not getting into your dream school and settling for a different one will definitely set some people off and feed the stereotypes. It usually goes away, but the feeling is still there.”</p>

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<li>I totally agree with you. A lot of people who go to UCR are usually people who did not get into their dream school. And I wanted to say that people who complain should really get over their dream school because it is over and people can always start their new lives at UCR. They could either work hard at UCR with a lot of internships and get a good job or they could work hard to go to a grad school they wanted to go to. If they are keep complaining about going to UCR, then why don’t they just save money and go to CC and transfer if they think the that UCLA is the only way to make their lives better? Yes. I feel like the stereotypes are starting to go away since UCR is becoming a better school. But you are right. Some people still complain and can’t get over it.</li>
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<p>I truly wanted to let everyone know that UCR is not a “reject” school or a “■■■■■■” school. It might not be a great school among the UC schools, but I can assure everyone that it is a great school among the colleges in the United States.</p>

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<p>And they should feel lucky that they are getting a great education at UCR.</p>

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<p>After a while you stop caring about how good the school is</p>

<p>there are much better things to like eat, drink, and be merry</p>

<p>The hype about universities that people feel in senior and junior year is just naive and weird…</p>

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<p>“Even UCLA and UC Berkeley are comparable to Ivy League Schools. So I wouldn’t want to call UCR a reject school.”</p>

<p>That claim is actually a red herring fallacy.
Actually, most of your arguments that support Riverside are simply fallacies. So… if you want people to take your school seriously, you should use stronger arguments.</p>

<p>I am not hating on Riverside, and I am not hating on you. Just know this for any future propositions you plan on making :]</p>

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<p>@Whiteclock

  • I never really said something that I stopped caring about how the school is. UCR is indeed a great school, But, I didn’t want to give a false facts that leads to fallacy. I sincerely care about how good UCR is. I just wanted to break the stereotype of “UC Reject” or “UC ■■■■■■” because those words sounds TOO STRONG for great schools like UCR. I wanted to let people, who are discouraged to go to UCR, know that they are lucky to be in a great schools like that because it is rare to have great education like UC schools in out-of-state colleges.</p>

<p>@falalalafun

  • Yea. I didn’t specifically stated why UCR is a great school. Alright here you go.
    The U.S. & World News Report website rank schools based on their competition level, alumni contributions, wealth, and the impact of variety of programs and organizations on students. That’s why most private schools (Ivy League schools) ranked higher than UC Berkeley and UCLA. (Even Emory, Rice and Notre Dame ranked higher than UCB and UCLA). This ranking system could be RELIABLE, but it doesn’t VALIDATE how each school would have an impact on student’s college life and education. So, I think people shouldn’t base solely on ranking system when judging schools.
    Most UC schools literally have the same academic levels. Both UCB and UCLA could have good professors or bad professors, depending on what classes you are taking. You could have a professor who has thick English accent or you could have a professor who could help you prepare for your future. There are plenty of professors out there at UC schools who came from all over the world. People assume that UCB is better than UCLA just because of its prestige based on the ranking system from those stupid websites. The ONLY difference between UCB and UCLA is that UCB is more competitive. Their academic levels are the same. You can still go to UCLA and have a same skill and education as UC Berkeley student or Ivy League student If students are willing to put your effort at UCLA.
    Same goes for UCR. For competition level, UCR is indeed not comparable to schools like UCLA and UC Berkeley… but why do you think UCR is called “UC” R? Competition level might not be great at UCR, but UCR is still part of the UC school, which is well-known for its system across the country, and the fact that they have professors from a lot of big-named schools, who conducts impressive research at their labs and teach students at the same time. So if someone works really hard at UCR and believes he can compete against UCLA student… then why not??? I believe it’s possible for UCR student to have same skill as UCLA student if they could use great resources provided at UCR. The academics at UCR are usually easy compared to UCLA. But if a UCR student aim for higher level of classes, then he is basically having a great education as UCLA. My cousin from UCR actually competed against UCLA students for Thomas Haider Medical program… and he was able to make it. There’s no such thing as impossible. I also think their engineering program is really great because they allow students to conduct research and hands-on experiments, and teach students about engineering theoretically. If my argument still led to fallacies… Let me know :slight_smile: I would really appreciate your comments, but I am stating a fact this time.
    Oh and this is my resource: This guy got accepted to 8 prestigious graduate school from UCR.
    READ CAREFULLY PLEASE
    <a href=“UCR Newsroom: Home”>UCR Newsroom: Home;
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<p>conclusion: UCR is great, not a “reject” nor a “■■■■■■”, because of its faculty members, researches, great resources offered at UCR. Students at UCR just gotta know how to use those great resources. If people think UCR is ■■■■■■■■, then they are the ■■■■■■■ because they don’t know anything about the school.</p>

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<p>lol. no disrespect… i’m glad that you’re so enthusiastic about UCR, but i feel like you’re being a bit too defensive about the stereotypes for no real reason. i know you think UCR is great… but no one was really bad mouthing it before your initial post…?</p>

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<p>lol i guess you’re right. I was being a bit sarcastic. I noticed a lot of people are actually enthusiastic about going to UCR. That has changed now. But I have seen some negative reviews that seriously mocked the pride of UCR on the other websites and some of my friends complained about going to UCR, saying that they are not going to have a great education…</p>

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<p>I got rejected from my top six choices, and had fewer choices than most of my cousins and my brother even though I had a higher SAT score than all of them, better extra curriculars, and a comparable or better GPA than all of them, so I can see definetly empathize with people who sterotype Riverside as UC Rejects. Being a public institution, the UC system must accept the top 12.5% of california students who apply into at least one of their schools, and UCR and UCR Merced are those two school that the lowest achieving of the top 12.5% get deferred to. So that’s where the sterotype comes from. Having said that, I’m super happy that I ended up choosing UCR over SDSU, and I’ve made peace with going to UCR next year, and I’m actually glad everything worked out the way it did for me. UCR and Berkeley are the only two UCs with business colleges, and I knew I wasn’t gonna get into Berkeley, and wouldn’t have liked the overly competititve climate at Berkeley anyways, so I think UCR really is the best school for me. It’s a terrific school, and now that they’re building a medical school, and UC Merced is here to take on the bad rep as the “crappy” UC, Riverside’s reputation is really climbing, and will continue to climb. =D</p>

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<p>I’ve said this many times - it doesn’t really pertain to your arguments, but I still want to say this.</p>

<p>Whether or not UC Riverside is a great institution, in regard to its ability to create intellectuals, characters, w/e, has apparently had little effect so far on its reputation to people in high school and below. ( I still stand by my point that those kids tend to be way too obsessed about these things)</p>

<p>Rather, it’s all about the acceptance rate. because UCR has such a high rate, it’s inevitable that it’ll accept people who may not necessarily deserve such an education - in that they’re not ready to take the responsibilities of a college student. The fact that such people are able to get into the university will make it seem less outstanding, and lower its reputation as a result. I remember that for many of my friends the idea of being rejected from UCR was ludicrous, because they believed it couldn’t be possible.</p>

<p>So, I think the best solution would simply be to reject more kids…</p>

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<p>honestly, i do think UCR consist of mostly UC REJECTS. to me, it seems like its the last resort for everybody who is in the middle range of SAT scores and GPA. no offense to UCR people, but all my friends that are going are going b/c they got rejected from other UC’s such as Davis, Irvine, SB, SC… all of them that are going are willing to go to any of those than UCR. so technically, i do think UCR is sort of a UC REJECT school… i don’t think people have the dream to go to UCR like they do to go to cal/la… its sort of like back up… i don’t think UCR is a bad school though, but its’ reputation isn’t that great.</p>

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<p>jermaphobe: You come off sounding like a dufus when you call UCR students rejects and turn around and tell them you did not intend to offend them. A dufus is someone who shoots his mouth off before he engages his brain. If it hasn’t occurred to you yet, you are offensive.
I like to see you tell everyone where you go to school and what your GPA is. Then maybe you can begin to lay claim to respectability. And that goes for everyone else who’s got a beef with UCR.</p>

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<p>um… i’m not taking back what i said and i have the right to voice my opinion tyvm. i’m just telling it as i see. i have bunch of friends who are at ucr and they’re all really smart, but the reason why they went is because they got rejected from everything else. i’m not trying to be mean, and my cousin is attending this school because he had no other options. i think this school is great and the campus is nice, but it does seem like the last resort for most people. i’m just saying, i’m not going to sugar coat my opinions. and if im offensive, sorry, but this is how i see it and i’m not going to change the way i feel.</p>

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<p>Why is this subject of such high interest?</p>

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<p>I’m someone who spent his first two years at UCR.</p>

<p>Honestly, UCR gets its reputation as “UC Rejects” because it’s often true. From my experience, most kids that go to UCR were rejected by the “higher ranked” UC schools. This doesn’t make it a bad school. Some kids were just lazy in high school and didn’t get their act together until college. Many kids fail out of UCR their first year because they were not capable. In my opinion, a degree from UCR in a tough field is very respectable. I’ve been through two years of computer science courses there, and can attest to the high difficulty of the classes. Whether or not it’s a school for “UC Rejects”, a lot is still expected from you.</p>

<p>However, UC Rejects is not totally true. I’ve found that a lot of minority students (black students in particular) will choose UCR over higher ranked UCs because of comfort level. I believe UCLA and Berkeley have like 2% black population? UCR’s is between 10-20%. The “UC Rejects” stigma seems most true for white and asian students.</p>

<p>Note: I’m truly not trying to be racist in any way. All the “racial” stuff I listed here I think of as “cultural” and not “racial”.</p>

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<p>I actually agree with arcadefire because I am an african american that could have went to other UC’s and I chose UCR.</p>