Will I be there next year(Right now, I am kinda losing hope)(Chances)?

Colleges & Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>I posted this on another forum the other day. However, due to lack of replies, I deleted it. I know you guys are not admissions officers, but I would like it if you guys could give me your opinion. (especially people living in USA). </p>

<p>Indian Male (Living in India)
I don't require financial aid
Intended Major - AEM
Rejected Wharton ED</p>

<p>SAT - 1st try CR - 660 M- 690 W- 640 Total 1350/1990
2nd Try - CR - 670 M - 720 W - 680 Total 1390/2070</p>

<p>SAT2 - Math 2 - 780. Lit - 680</p>

<p>TOEFL - 118/120</p>

<p>Class Rank 2/30 (class only includes people from my stream)</p>

<p>GPA - school does not calculate
Was doing amazing till my junior year and then am sucking in my senior year. School is very competitive, one of the best in the country.(rarely sends people to ivies, sends a lot of people to NUS every year with full aid, but one guy got Harvard last year with full aid).
9th grade - 90%. 10th grade 94.8%(national exam, merit certificate in social science for securing 100%, 600 people get 100% out of 200000), 11th grade - 90%(class topper, first in accountancy, English and Business Studies, distinguished All rounder Award) 12th grade - 80%( slipped to 2/30 but everybody's grades in class have suffered badly, exams are very tough in my school)</p>

<p>Was highly commended in the Commonwealth Essay Competition</p>

<p>I have an internship at a proprietary investments firm(I am still writing reports for them) and have attended two training sessions at securities firms(probably the top two securities firms in my country)</p>

<p>I have completed the Bloomberg Product Certification in both stream - equity and Fixed income.</p>

<p>I have completed the first level exam of the International Federation of Technical Analysts(technical analysis is a way of studying the stock markets) Have attended a couple of seminars on Technical Analysis. Am also an associate member of the Society of Technical Analysts, London</p>

<p>I am a senior member of the commerce club in my school
I was a member of the organizational committee for the bi annual competition hosted by my school.
I am a member of the projects team, (having worked on the ISA(British Council) project in association with a school in the UK)</p>

<p>I helped in aid collection for Tsunami Relief and I have some other community service as well.</p>

<p>Teacher Recs - One excellent, one okay
Counselor Rec - Said I was academically excellent</p>

<p>I am scared because of the rejection (found that there was a couple of spelling mistakes in an essay, my SAT scores did not reach in time, low GPA, low SATs, lack of ECs)</p>

<p>I am also applying to</p>

<p>NYU(Stern)
Yale(Economics)
Columbia(economics)
Brown(economics)
Duke(economics)
UT at Austin(Mccombs)
USC (Marshall)
Carnegie Mellon (Tepper)
Villanova(business)</p>

<p>Any opinions will be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>Essays were good (According to me). CommonApp essay was abou the subprime crisis(how my uncle lost his savings and how the crisis will Impact me)</p>

<p>My brother is doing his masters at Cornell this year</p>

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<p>all intl students are a LOOOOOONG shot, and a crap shoot long shot at that. Flip a coin 60 times, and if over 7/8s of them are heads, I would say you have a 10% chance. Good luck, you will need it.</p>

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<p>lol… such a pessimistic view.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t necessarily count on the acceptance either, but just hope for the best.
Your SATs are a little low, and I dont know how much your ECs will help… But then again, if your essay is AMAZING, then you still have a chance. Good luck! :)</p>

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<p>If you have the money, might as well shoot for it. Make sure your essays are memorable.
You’ll never know what is going in the minds of admission folk these days.</p>

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<p>your SAT I experiences parallel my own (srsly, i was like 10pts different than you on both tries)
let’s hope for the best…that’s all we can do</p>

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<p>Not a great chance… AEM is the most selective program at Cornell. SAT scores are poor,extracurriculars don’t show much leadership, and you’re an international; it’s infinitely harder for internationals to get in.</p>

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<p>Not only are you international, but you have a 2070 SAT competing with int’ls with 2400s who have won world competitions, strong extracurriculars, etc. and you gave reasons yourself why you won’t get in:

there you have it. among the schools you are applying to, you are likely to get rejected across the board, except for maybe Villanova.</p>

<p>don’t get caught up in the hype of prestige. there are far more American schools than the ones you listed, many of which would be better matches for you.</p>

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<p>id say you have a chance, not applying for F aid is definitely a +, i mean ive met a bunch of internationals and i know they aren’t world champions at something or have 2400 sat lol</p>

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<p>yea, sats are uber important for intls, and gpa/rank is not as important as it is for domestic students</p>

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<p>you should have applied to ILR…</p>

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<p>I’m an international (Canada) and got into Cornell ED into CAS and my superscored SAT I was only 1970.</p>

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<p>canadians are not in the same pool as intls from east asia. They put people in “blocks” and for the most part, canadians and mexicans are considered domestic students. Students from asia however, are not. In addition, I do not think you ECs will help you much if at all. The only ECs that really “count” for intls are ones that are verifiable, like academic olympic medalists or the like. Many intl students either fake their ECs or vastly inflate their significance.</p>

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<p>ILR would provide a better chance. A brother at Cornell couldn’t hurt.</p>

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<p>Isn’t India a English-speaking country? I am sorry I hope this doesn’t sound too rude.</p>

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<p>If you dont have a genuine intrest for ILR the admissions comitee is going to see that and reject you. Considering you dont have any real leadership or ILR activities its not gonne be easy</p>

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<p>How do you delete a thread? Oh, your stats are similar to mine except I may have a higher GPA and the fact that I am not an international. I say that Cornell looks to be a bit of a reach.</p>

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<p>if you get rejected…your best bet will be to go to whatever school you do get into…get a 3.5+ and then transfer :)</p>

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<p>If there is no post after yours(in my case, due to an error, posts by people who replied came above mine), I deleted my post and it looked like the thread had been submitted by the other guy who replied. I think that if you are the first guy and you dont get any replied, if you delete your post, you can delete the thread.</p>

<p>Anyways, thanks for your answers, I do not think I would be a great fit in ILR. I do not have much interest in that area.</p>

<p>Bloomberg Product Certification should be verifiable because the Bloomberg Professional Service is used by thousands across the world. Bloomberg is a very big company and they have their terminals everywhere(even at Cornell, Yale, Penn etc.).
But you guys are right, there are no other significant ECs. I am going to hope for the best(seeing that I already submitted my app). My only interest has always been in the stock markets and though I have done significant work there, may not be enough.</p>

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<p>yea transfer is awesomely easier</p>

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<p>awesomely easier? you realize that the transfer acceptance rate for CAS is lower than the freshman acceptance rate? and it’s harder to do well in college than HS…btw if you are planning on transferring, I think you need to do better than a 3.5. then again, i’ve seen cornell accept some people with low transfer gpa’s (like 3.6-3.7ish) and reject some with 4.0’s…weird. I guess it’s really all about fit! good luck :)</p>