<p>in the past four or so years, no one AT ALL has applied to Penn. this year, there is three. two other girls and i. im not so much worried about one girl who is applying to CAS with a 2220 SAT, but one girl is applying to wharton ed with a 2360. although i have better rank and ec's than her, my SAT is only 2180. Does this hurt me/lower my chances because she has a better SAT score from me given that she is at the same school?</p>
<p>it probably doesnt help, but theres a lot more then scores that they consider. Essays, ECs, all that junk…its best to just wait and see what happens…its out of your hands…dont worry too much</p>
<p>oh i am applying to wharton ed too so because we are applying to the same school at penn, will her higher score hurt me?</p>
<p>It’s always good to be one of the top applicants from your school to a particular college, since colleges usually compare those from the same school. What, I would imagine, they normally compare with applicants from the same school are non-standardized materials: GPA, ECs, etc. SATs are standardized scores, a 2200 = 2200 everywhere. But a 4.0 at one school isn’t the same in another. What I’m trying to say is, if your GPA is considerably higher than your classmates’, then having a lower SAT won’t make a difference–especially when the “low SAT” is a 2180. </p>
<p>By the way, applicants to different schools within Penn are not judged by the same standards necessarily. You won’t be competing for a spot in CAS with a person applying to Wharton. Also, remember it’s possible that all three of you could be accepted.</p>
<p>okay thanks. my rank is 2/709 while her rank is 20/709. for school realated ec’s she is the president of key club, while im on varsity basketball, ASB President, and fbla president. hopefully they compare more on the non-standardized materials than they do on the scores.</p>
<p>I am not a Penn admissions expert, but I have been an alumni interviewer for many years. I have never seen any evidence that multiple strong applicants from the same school are disadvantaged relative to one another. In fact, there was a year, not so long ago, where all five of the applicants from one local public school were accepted (a school that had not had any history of many accepted students). In contrast, students from schools with a history of getting students accepted did not fare well that year. Those five students were a stand-out group and it did not matter that they went to the same school.</p>
<p>thanks nimby58.
if we sent three to stanford last year and one to harvard. two of them being recruited all-state players, and the other two being legacy/major urms, does that mean our school had a history of getting students accepted even though, im not taking anything away from their prestigious acceptance, they did not get admitted purely on “amazingnesss”.</p>
<p>A track record of getting students accepted usually centers around the academic reputation of a school. However, there may be schools that are known for strong athletics and students are recruited regularly. In my example, I was referring to academics. </p>
<p>This is another example of something that, although tempting to stress about, you should let go of. You have no control over it and you will make yourself crazy comparing and contrasting.</p>
<p>I don’t think 3 is a problem. Particularly at Penn. What may be more worrisome is how many kids are applying from your area, not just your school. Some areas can fill a freshman class with qualified students. At which point, you gotta show a little something else to stand out from the crowd, since they will pick an equivalent candidate from an area less represented over you.</p>
<p>I know that it definitely hurts if more people are applying from the same country.</p>
<p>Yes, it can. And for the smaller schools that are looking for diversity, many kids from the same school and the same area with similar resumes can hurt. However, Penn can easily handle 3 from the same school. I have seen them take more than that many times.</p>
<p>Its more if youre in an area as people said, for example long island, where there are a ton of qualified applicants</p>
<p>penn accepted 15 people from my school last year. fifteen.</p>
<p>“penn accepted 15 people from my school last year”</p>
<p>HW?</p>
<p>well.. Penn accepts 30-40 kids from my school each year.. Since its a highly ranked public school in a ghetto Philadelphia area…</p>
<p>^ The big C?</p>
<p>At my school about 5-7 kids get into penn every year almost all rich legacies like me. but very few apply to wharton. specifically for wharton do u think they limit the amount they will accept from the same school/town to 2 or 3 if outside phillY?</p>
<p>No, but I do think they limit the number of rich legacies.</p>