Worse Food

<p>Below is an e mail that appears to have been mass generated on the USMMA campus on this subject. I don't know how many students shared it with their parents but it has a very good point in it. So I copied it below:</p>

<p>Thanks for the info on the Princeton Review Survey. I am not sure exactly how they define "happy".</p>

<p>Abraham Lincoln once said that "a person is generally as happy as they choose to be"and I am a firm believer in that concept. I was very happy at KP but quite vividly remember those around me who were not and it was generally self inflicted.</p>

<p>If you equate high stress and extreme workload with unhappiness then I would expect we would be at the top of this list, however I will argue that it is just that mix in the crucible of KP that helps make a Kings Pointer what he or she is upon graduation. A highly sought after professional well educated and well rounded individual who can think clearly, take charge and contribute immediately to whatever organization they join.</p>

<p>Of course maybe they just interviewed some wayward midshipmen who were on restriction and ED? That would make me unhappy too. There's not much extra duty at Brown University.</p>

<p>Best regards,</p>

<p>John Knight</p>

<p>No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were inconvenienced.</p>

<p>Nice email Kp10smom. Wonder if they surveyed any sea year kids. On a scale of 1 to 10 my kid would rank it an 11 at this very second. As has always been said, there are many ups & downs to a KP kid's life. Sigh.... Upon returning from every break, my kid will email & say, "I forgot how bad I hate it here". After that email kept coming to my inbox, I finally said, "Why don't you shut-up. If you hate it that bad, then leave". Emailed followed & I can quote: "Leave!? Are you crazy!? I'm on a mission. And that mission is to make it outta here alive with my diploma in hand. By the way, I hate it here. We had some kind of greenish-brown meat for dinner". In talking to many parents of Mids, 2nd year & up, I think most of us would agree that if there is a kid out there that loves the place, might wanna have him seen by the doc. They love it one minute, hate it the next. I recall my civvy college kid feeling much of the same but atleast he didn't have to windex the faucet in his room or get blasted out of bed for morning colors. :) I kinda take the review with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>Thanks Jamzmom, that really helps normalize what the plebe candidates may be feeling and what some of us also hear through our e mails</p>

<p>I think the young adults who make it through this program do through tenacity and determiniation. And those are qualities that are very much needed in both the military service and private sector.</p>

<p>K ∏ ∑ thats all i have to say...</p>

<p>thanks also Jamzmom...your perspective is so appreciated..I think for a P/c mom, it is hard to figure what they are feeling at this point. Mine seems really good when I speak with him. And more than determined to make this happen,,,even as a young p/c. I just fret behind the scene. Need to stop that , dont I??</p>

<p>KP10, I have been enjoying your sense of humor since you began posting.</p>

<p>But I still can't figure out K ∏ ∑.</p>

<p>What does it mean?</p>

<p>kappa pi sigma
kings point sucks</p>

<p>LOL LOL LOL Parents need to listen to KP10 & BVWB. You'll learn lots.
Yep. They hate it but they're gonna eat the greenish-brown meat & do what they gotta do. LOL (You guys crack me up)</p>

<p>CJ, even tho these kids have taken off on a high fly, you can still worry. Its what we parents get paid for. I worry for every single one of them up there so you guys can take some time off. No worries. I take the purple pill. You know... the one for stomach problems.......the whole lot of them have given me an ulcer & caused me to drink now :)</p>

<p>I listened to my son's compaints about the food with a grain of salt. Nothing is as good as home cooking. Well, on Parents' Weekend he said they were really boosting the food quality and I thought it was awful. I am not a picky eater and pretty much, if I don't have to cook it, the food is fine. I walked away agreeing with my son.</p>

<p>KP10 and bvwhiteboy,</p>

<p>efcharisto'</p>

<p>That means "thank you" in Greek.</p>

<p>I'm impressed with your use of foreign languages!</p>

<p>So KP10 how do you say that in Nihongo? </p>

<p>Looking forward to taking you to places with really good food over the weekend.</p>

<p>MOM</p>

<p>Food, </p>

<p>The only place LFWB wanted to go last year was the Palm in NY. Our favorite for steaks in Manhattan.</p>

<p>As expected, there were quite a few comments from the midshipmen and the administration about the 2007 Princeton Review during Parents Weekend.
The midshipmen at the Midshipmen Life Panel said the survey sample for the 2007 review (taken before Recognition during the 2005-2006 school year) was only 16 midshipmen.
As to the food, some midshipmen and parents who were familiar with other colleges say that although it is typical for students to decide the food is bad, especially when they get tired of the menu, they didn't feel the food was any worse than any other college.
To paraphrase and condense the Superintendent's comments, while he was philosophical about the review, he indicated that it was an area that had his attention and that they were working on.</p>

<p>may i remind ever one that the food we ate this past weekend was not "true delano food"</p>

<p>yep, Royce was SO impressed with the baked ziti stuff on Saturday. He kept raving how good it was. I mean, it was OK, but nothing special.</p>

<p>A survey sample of 16 midshipmen does not sound whatsoever significant.</p>

<p>Unappetizing food--you can survive that.
Let's just hope none of our midshipmen end up in a coma at North Shore Hospital, the contract facility where they get taken when more comprehensive health care is called for than the on-campus examination services and clinic-level care.</p>

<p>The below recent article from the Wall Street Journal recounts an older coma patient's brush with the Hospital's chilling "death with dignity" campaign:</p>

<p>"How Faith Saved the Atheist
By PAMELA R. WINNICK
July 21, 2006; Page W11
The Wall Street Journal
A medical resident -- we called her "Dr. Death" -- at the Intensive Care Unit at Long Island's North Shore Hospital chased us down the hallway.
"Your husband wants to die," she told my mother, again. Just minutes before I had asked her to leave us alone.
"He can't even talk," I reminded her.
"He motioned with his hands when we tried to put in the feeding tube," she said.
Not exactly informed consent, I pointed out as we turned our backs on her and walked down the hallway, trying to avert our eyes from the other patients in the ICU that night, each of them at various points in the so-called "twilight zone" between life and death.
Afflicted with asbestos-related lung cancer, my father, Louis Winnick, was rushed into the ICU in late May after a blood clot nearly killed him. The next day, my husband and I raced to New York from Pittsburgh. I packed enough work and knitting for what might be an extended stay, but I also put in a suit for what I was certain would be my father's imminent funeral. Still, he wasn't dead yet. And we had no intention of precipitating the inevitable.
"Dr. Death" was just one of several. A new resident appeared the next day, this one a bit more diplomatic but again urging us to allow my father to "die with dignity." And the next day came yet another, who opened with the words, "We're getting mixed messages from your family," before I shut him up. I've written extensively about practice of bioethics -- which, for the most part, I do not find especially ethical -- but never did I dream that our moral compass had gone this far askew. My father, 85, was heading ineluctably toward death. Though unconscious, his brain, as far as anyone could tell, had not been touched by either the cancer or the blood clot. He was not in a "persistent vegetative state" (itself a phrase subject to broad interpretation), that magic point at which family members are required to pull the plug -- or risk the accusation that they are right-wing Christians.
I complained about all the death-with-dignity pressure to my father's doctor, an Orthodox Jew, who said that his religion forbids the termination of care but that he would be perfectly willing to "look the other way" if we wanted my father to die. We didn't. Then a light bulb went off in my head. We could devise a strategy to fend off the death-happy residents: We would tell them we were Orthodox Jews.
My little ruse worked. During the few days after I announced this faux fact, it was as though an invisible fence had been drawn around my mother, my sister and me. No one dared mutter that hateful phrase "death with dignity."
Though my father was born to an Orthodox Jewish family, he is an avowed atheist who long ago had rejected his parents' ways. As I sat in the ICU, blips on the various screens the only proof that my father was alive, the irony struck me: My father, who had long ago rejected Orthodox Judaism, was now under its protection.
As though to confirm this, there came a series of miracles. Just a week after he was rushed to ICU, my father was pronounced well enough to be moved out of the unit into North Shore's long-term respiratory care unit. A day later he was off the respirator, able to breathe on his own. He still mostly slept, but then he began to awaken for minutes at a time, at first groggy, but soon he was as alert (and funny) as ever. A day later, we walked in to find him sitting upright in a chair, reading the New York Times.
I've never been one of those Jews who makes facial contortions at the mere mention of the Christian Right; I actually agree with them on some matters. And this experience with my father has given me a new appreciation for the fight many evangelicals have waged against euthanasia.
But I'm offended that so many conservative Christians believe that theirs is the only path to salvation. I'm sick of being proselytized. We Jews enjoy a more basic type of faith, a direct relationship to God that requires no salvation, no penitence, no supplication. We do not proselytize. And we don't worry about the next life; we conduct mitzvahs -- good deeds -- that enhance life for ourselves and others in the here and now. Religion is said to have no grandparents -- meaning, we each find our own path to (or away from) faith. Yet it's my grandparents' faith -- and not my father's Jewish atheism -- to which I find myself being drawn.
A few years ago -- perhaps just to fend off the Christians -- I joined a local synagogue in the suburbs of Pittsburgh. But the annual dues shot up from $750 to $1,000. And the fund-raisers called nonstop seeking donations to the temple's capital fund. "Jesus saves, Moses invests," my father always joked. Hey, that's our tradition.
On Father's Day, we packed my father's hospital room: his wife, daughters, grandchildren, each of us regaling him with our successes large and small. "Life's not so bad, after all," the atheist said. I wanted to go back to ICU, find Dr. Death, drag her to my father's room and say: "This is the life you wanted to end." But if I'm really to be a person of faith, I'll have to tackle forgiveness.
Ms. Winnick is writing a book about Democrats and the religious vote."</p>

<p>This story makes little sense to someone who knows the medical system. SO to begin a little background: Assisted suicide is illegal in 49 of the 50 states (I believe there is one that allows it, could be wrong though)</p>

<p>Although one can say the actions of the so-called 'Dr Death' and their way of conveying information and pushing an idea on the family was terrible at best the fact that the family claimed the patient was 'orthodox jew' had nothing to do with the fact he survived. He survived because he got better, not because the medical team 'did not kill him'. </p>

<p>The big decision is when to begin hospice care or otherwise withhold further care. If one begins hospice it basically means they have a terminal disease which can not be cured and for which there is a general feeling that there is less than x amount of months left. They will be kept comfortable using pain control methods and will pass away comfortably. They do not cause the patient's to die any faster, they simply make it comfortable. Although I have not fully devoloped my views on assisted suicide or withholding support I feel as hospice as one of the best things around. It is usually run by some of the nicest and most caring people around. </p>

<p>Another question is how does this lady know the religions of any of the caregivers other than the one whose religion they mention? I know I dont' go around the hospital saying, hey I believe in XYZ and I doubt these did either, especially a resident who barely has time to eat lunch most days.</p>

<p>I believe this article to be yet another veiled attack on those who may not agree with her liberal views. I agree that the people could use a lesson in tact her basic argument is that the religious right is a bunch of zealots.</p>

<p>(steps onto soapbox)
My last note on this: This article does do some good, it shows the importance of a living will and a Do Not Resuscitate order. These two documents can be used to explicitly detail what a person does and does not want to be done in case they are unable to express those desires. Although a very difficult discussion to have I will ask you your preference anytime you are admitted to a hospital, and it makes life easier if you have thought of it beforehand. If you are older, have parents who are older, it would be wise to think of these things.<br>
(steps off soapbox)</p>

<p>I have heard that there are non regimented areas on campus in which plebes store shipped in food bootie in order to cope with the food issue. I walked around campus on parents week invisioning that many of the trees were hollowed out with secret doors in them.........</p>